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LamaTom

This is a business behavior - if somebody is paying, he will get more, but i dont think, that he will get easier random opponents.... Just regarding fair play - i am not sure, if it is the same procedure for closing a random account and closing account with paid membership - as you dont want lose a "customer", maybe, they get some warning first or so - we dont know as the cheaters and Chess.com both would not make it public, if it is the case.

Gupta3612
ariel2350 wrote:
Gupta3612 wrote:
ariel2350 wrote:
Blackdragon9406 wrote:
HeSacrificedTheRook2 wrote:
if you don’t like chess.com, leave. Go to lichess, IDC! Just don’t rant about this ‘unfair’ server on the forums. Please.

Okay so basically you're telling me that I should go use the platform less people play on and is "easier" because its actually fair for all players? Great way to basically tell me I'm poor

Who told less ppl play there? You'll get stronger and more established players there, instead of these ppl who cheat constantly and trash talk a lot. Plus you will get decent quality of opponents, unlike here, where even lowly-rated 1700s perform like 2500 rated master and crush everyone, especially in arenas as well as normal play.

You do realize that chess.com has a far more advanced algorithm for catching cheaters than lichess. It also has 8 times as many players. This doesn't mean that "everyone trash talks and cheats", in hundreds of games you play, less than 5 are opponents who are trash talkers and cheaters, more likely.

Yeah, I was defeated by an 1800 when I was rated 2000, in an arena. In the top game chats, many ppl are trash talkers and most of them are low-rated, so they don't focus much on chess, and instead spam and talk rubbish. Thats what I am saying. There's no talk at all in the Lichess top games section.

And, by the way, "8 times more players than Lichess" are wrong. Lichess has about 100,000 games ongoing at any moment. Chess.com has about 130,000 games ongoing. Therefore, ur claims are wrong. And I didn't mention everyone, you must have dreamed so. I said, most of the ppl.

You do realize that most of the games that you play are against people who aren't trash talkers. Out of the however many games you have played (excluding arena), how many where trash talkers and cheaters and hackers?

ariel2350
Gupta3612 wrote:
ariel2350 wrote:
Gupta3612 wrote:
ariel2350 wrote:
Blackdragon9406 wrote:
HeSacrificedTheRook2 wrote:
if you don’t like chess.com, leave. Go to lichess, IDC! Just don’t rant about this ‘unfair’ server on the forums. Please.

Okay so basically you're telling me that I should go use the platform less people play on and is "easier" because its actually fair for all players? Great way to basically tell me I'm poor

Who told less ppl play there? You'll get stronger and more established players there, instead of these ppl who cheat constantly and trash talk a lot. Plus you will get decent quality of opponents, unlike here, where even lowly-rated 1700s perform like 2500 rated master and crush everyone, especially in arenas as well as normal play.

You do realize that chess.com has a far more advanced algorithm for catching cheaters than lichess. It also has 8 times as many players. This doesn't mean that "everyone trash talks and cheats", in hundreds of games you play, less than 5 are opponents who are trash talkers and cheaters, more likely.

Yeah, I was defeated by an 1800 when I was rated 2000, in an arena. In the top game chats, many ppl are trash talkers and most of them are low-rated, so they don't focus much on chess, and instead spam and talk rubbish. Thats what I am saying. There's no talk at all in the Lichess top games section.

And, by the way, "8 times more players than Lichess" are wrong. Lichess has about 100,000 games ongoing at any moment. Chess.com has about 130,000 games ongoing. Therefore, ur claims are wrong. And I didn't mention everyone, you must have dreamed so. I said, most of the ppl.

You do realize that most of the games that you play are against people who aren't trash talkers. Out of the however many games you have played (excluding arena), how many where trash talkers and cheaters and hackers?

Many, if you scroll on my games. I played a peculiar number of games yesterday, just to keep my rating at its normal position. And, all trash talkers are low elo players, they didn't appear often in my games, but I have nevertheless seen ppl trash talking in forum comments, thats why moderators close the topics.

Blackdragon9406
ariel2350 wrote:
Gupta3612 wrote:
ariel2350 wrote:
Gupta3612 wrote:
ariel2350 wrote:
Blackdragon9406 wrote:
HeSacrificedTheRook2 wrote:
if you don’t like chess.com, leave. Go to lichess, IDC! Just don’t rant about this ‘unfair’ server on the forums. Please.

Okay so basically you're telling me that I should go use the platform less people play on and is "easier" because its actually fair for all players? Great way to basically tell me I'm poor

Who told less ppl play there? You'll get stronger and more established players there, instead of these ppl who cheat constantly and trash talk a lot. Plus you will get decent quality of opponents, unlike here, where even lowly-rated 1700s perform like 2500 rated master and crush everyone, especially in arenas as well as normal play.

You do realize that chess.com has a far more advanced algorithm for catching cheaters than lichess. It also has 8 times as many players. This doesn't mean that "everyone trash talks and cheats", in hundreds of games you play, less than 5 are opponents who are trash talkers and cheaters, more likely.

Yeah, I was defeated by an 1800 when I was rated 2000, in an arena. In the top game chats, many ppl are trash talkers and most of them are low-rated, so they don't focus much on chess, and instead spam and talk rubbish. Thats what I am saying. There's no talk at all in the Lichess top games section.

And, by the way, "8 times more players than Lichess" are wrong. Lichess has about 100,000 games ongoing at any moment. Chess.com has about 130,000 games ongoing. Therefore, ur claims are wrong. And I didn't mention everyone, you must have dreamed so. I said, most of the ppl.

You do realize that most of the games that you play are against people who aren't trash talkers. Out of the however many games you have played (excluding arena), how many where trash talkers and cheaters and hackers?

Many, if you scroll on my games. I played a peculiar number of games yesterday, just to keep my rating at its normal position. And, all trash talkers are low elo players, they didn't appear often in my games, but I have nevertheless seen ppl trash talking in forum comments, thats why moderators close the topics.
Me who is talking about unfair advantages from paying going to trash talking like ;-;

RyanZ_MD

I still don't understand why you don't just go to lichess. At least try it out. Plus, the number of people there is still a lot, so at most, it probably only takes a few minutes to get an oppennent you want. It never took me over 5 minutes

purrr-purrr
Blackdragon9406 wrote:
Emperor_Renov wrote:

I believe that Chess.com has a very good interface, though the moderation is a bit poor. Many people gat banned for small things, just because people who have bad intentions do those same things for attention. There is one player named Macca who was IP banned because he was speaking about his mental health problems and thoughts, but it was proven that a hacker said these things on his account. Chess.com does have good staff, but with support, it is a bit iffy. Sometimes you'll be connected with a kind staff member who will help you right away, and sometimes you will get a staff member who is a jerk and either turns you down or doesn't do anything for you for months at a time. Not to mention that they are quite biased on their policies, typically helping people with memberships rather than those who can't afford/don't want them. Overall, though, the Chess.com community is strong. If you want to see proof of their unfair moderating system, there is a forum in the OTF forums here: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/dear-chess-com-support-107270115

Shout out to this guy for understanding what I'm saying. You are inherently favored for paying money. Isn't chess supposed to be fair and based purely on experience?

first of all its a business and wants to generate as much profit as possible. but that the mods here are, well lets say very conservative and the impersonate law, i have read for many times. but what do you expect its an american platform and it reflects the national attitude.

support does actually not exist imo. or it is hidden very well. luckily i never needed it.

i recommend to try lichess. it is free for everyone. if you like it please donate. offers same features, some are better than here, especially studies. others, the fancy ones, are less developed. but best:

EVERYONE IS EQUAL AND YOU DONT GET KICKED FOR REDICULOUS THINGS!

well, it is french. europeans are much more liberal and open minded.

do i get banned now?

please not,

im a real cute kiddie *purrrrrrpurrrrrrrr*

purrr-purrr

because of cheating or lag. on lichess i read the same things vice versa.

chess.com is lagging and has a cheater problem.

first, if the cheater is not an idiot and plays first engine moves 10 times in a row nobody and nothing can ever proof it besides the person get caught with the smoking gun. imo chess.com has more issues with cheaters coz the whole atmosphere here. it makes you think you have to be or get better than the others.

i saw on lichesy the game records of an gm who played 27 games on chess.com and 4 times he got confronted with cheaters....

imo the main difference are the members. lichess members are in general about 10 years older and therefor a bit more mature. hopefully.

about lag i can not say anything coz i do not play bullet. but i pinged lichess now and it was 1ms server side and 89ms in total.

MaetsNori

Perhaps location matters. I live in North America and I don't really notice lag on Chess.com. The connection might be different for those on other continents ...

Blackdragon9406
MaetsNori wrote:

Perhaps location matters. I live in North America and I don't really notice lag on Chess.com. The connection might be different for those on other continents ...

I live in NA right next to the third largest city by population (like maybe 60 miles out), literally there's no way its that.

Blackdragon9406
RyanZ_MD wrote:

I still don't understand why you don't just go to lichess. At least try it out. Plus, the number of people there is still a lot, so at most, it probably only takes a few minutes to get an oppennent you want. It never took me over 5 minutes

I do, but people are like "omg lichess sucks because its an inaccurate representation of your actual elo, play chess.com instead and that's your real elo" except then lag, so ;-;

insane

I mean, why do you need a membership

Gupta3612
ariel2350 wrote:
Gupta3612 wrote:
ariel2350 wrote:
Blackdragon9406 wrote:
HeSacrificedTheRook2 wrote:
if you don’t like chess.com, leave. Go to lichess, IDC! Just don’t rant about this ‘unfair’ server on the forums. Please.

Okay so basically you're telling me that I should go use the platform less people play on and is "easier" because its actually fair for all players? Great way to basically tell me I'm poor

Who told less ppl play there? You'll get stronger and more established players there, instead of these ppl who cheat constantly and trash talk a lot. Plus you will get decent quality of opponents, unlike here, where even lowly-rated 1700s perform like 2500 rated master and crush everyone, especially in arenas as well as normal play.

You do realize that chess.com has a far more advanced algorithm for catching cheaters than lichess. It also has 8 times as many players. This doesn't mean that "everyone trash talks and cheats", in hundreds of games you play, less than 5 are opponents who are trash talkers and cheaters, more likely.

Yeah, I was defeated by an 1800 when I was rated 2000, in an arena. In the top game chats, many ppl are trash talkers and most of them are low-rated, so they don't focus much on chess, and instead spam and talk rubbish. Thats what I am saying. There's no talk at all in the Lichess top games section.

And, by the way, "8 times more players than Lichess" are wrong. Lichess has about 100,000 games ongoing at any moment. Chess.com has about 130,000 games ongoing. Therefore, ur claims are wrong. And I didn't mention everyone, you must have dreamed so. I said, most of the ppl.

Also, almost all of lichess players have an alt account on chess.com. If all you want to do is rant and complain, you can leave, and go play lichess, or even better, a different site, like chesskid

Gupta3612
Blackdragon9406 wrote:
RyanZ_MD wrote:

I still don't understand why you don't just go to lichess. At least try it out. Plus, the number of people there is still a lot, so at most, it probably only takes a few minutes to get an oppennent you want. It never took me over 5 minutes

I do, but people are like "omg lichess sucks because its an inaccurate representation of your actual elo, play chess.com instead and that's your real elo" except then lag, so ;-;

I agree. Lichess is very nice, however I still prefer the user interface of chess.com. Neither online platform has an accurate rating to your actual over the board rating, and the lag on chess.com is getting much lower these days. I guess some people can have lag based on their internet connection, but you don't have proof that lichess lags less. The amount of players who play lichess vs chess.com is still a large amount, and it isn't an issue. There are just other things to consider when using both.

Gupta3612
Blackdragon9406 wrote:

Chess.com is unfair in fast game modes with no increment unless you have premium or a super fast computer. Here's why:

The game on average can take up 1.0+ GB of storage. That might not seem like a lot. But other browser websites and pages like Gmail, Discord, Youtube and others take up a lot less. Take even another chess website like Lichess. "It's not superior", as many people would probably like to point out. Except that you lag less. Like A LOT less. Lichess? 52 MB. That's 1/20s of the amount of processing for the exact same gameplay, except maybe multipremoving.
Why do I bring this up?
Some people can't physically pay for premium. They don't have a card or they can't convince their parents to use a card for them. So you want to get good at chess? Buy a better computer, not Chess.com's fault. "It's likely our servers aren't the problem" as stated when asking support when lag occurs. So just because you don't have a better computer or you haven't paid for a lower running cost, you're at a disadvantage. That's the bottom line. It's unfair, and honestly sad.

JuSt Go To LiChEsS iF yOu WaNt To CoMpLaIn, InStEaD oF rAnTiNg AnD yAmMeRiNg

IsraeliGal

I play on chess.com on a macbook laptop. it doesnt have insane processing power, its not got a lot of RAM, but ive never had issues with lag or other such related issues.

You have to really be using a device thats either extremely outdated or extremely cheap to be having problems playing a game on chess.com.

There's a lot of problems with this site, lag or processing issues on the site aren't one of them.