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DiogenesDue
shadowtanuki wrote:

Don't project your limitations onto others, please.

You say this likes it means something, but it's baseless posturing. You'll note that you were the one definitively projecting onto others here, which is why I called you out in the first place.

shadowtanuki

I've missed you, too, since Elroch blocked me.

Sack_o_Potatoes

theres much simpler solutions to this such as filters or time before access to clubs and forums after an account being made

DiogenesDue
shadowtanuki wrote:

I've missed you, too, since Elroch blocked me.

Nobody misses you.

shadowtanuki
DiogenesDue wrote:
shadowtanuki wrote:

I've missed you, too, since Elroch blocked me.

Nobody misses you.

Well, since I never really saw much reason to desire your approval, I can't say I'm deeply grieved by not being the favorite of you sagacious gentlemen.

micahjulian08
WTFrickenA wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
micahjulian08 wrote:

I guess it would be like a salary where it’s just a fixed amount of pay regardless of hours worked

Assuming the site decided to pay existing mods, it would likely be reported time, though it's really hard to track it when it might be spread throughout the day.

A set stipend could work, though it would probably be variable based on overall activity.

What about commendable checks, based ones help?

Alright how much money will that be in one check? 100s? 1000s? It will depend if it’s monthly, weekly, or daily

RonaldJosephCote

"Have you heard the one about class consciousness only being achievable by the proletariat"? If Erik wanted a chess site that appeals to the Romans,....he would of created one THEN.

shadowtanuki
shadowtanuki wrote:
AlCzervik wrote:
4KnightsOfTheApocalypse wrote:
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

Wow!....... who knew that so many young chess players are familiar with digital & Corporate finance. If I ever hit the lottery, I'm gonna ask you people for advice.

Pretty stunning the amount of entrepreneurs and business owners chiming in isn't it?

it is telling that, aside from offering compensation to martin, this is the only post you deem worthy of a response.

in a topic where members would like answers from staff/mods about site issues.

Have you heard the one about class consciousness only being achievable by the proletariat?

My point was that you shouldn't be surprised when moderators show a lack of self awareness about their 'customer service' performance. Some of them seem to consider themselves above addressing the experiences of the typical user, and only interact to justify the hierarchy that exists to serve the interests of the chess.com upper class. 4k's comment was only denigratory, and as a moderator he represents the site. It's untypical for representatives of a particular social or business arrangement to be conversant with or concerned about the inequities embodied in that arrangement.

DiogenesDue
shadowtanuki wrote:

My point was that you shouldn't be surprised when moderators show a lack of self awareness about their 'customer service' performance. Some of them seem to consider themselves above addressing the experiences of the typical user, and only interact to justify the hierarchy that exists to serve the interests of the chess.com upper class. 4k's comment was only denigratory, and as a moderator he represents the site. It's untypical for representatives of a particular social or business arrangement to be conversant with or concerned about the inequities embodied in that arrangement.

Do you mean "atypical"?

You have rather grandiose ideas about the forums. A whole social class system complete with government bureaucracy?

shadowtanuki
DiogenesDue wrote:
shadowtanuki wrote:

My point was that you shouldn't be surprised when moderators show a lack of self awareness about their 'customer service' performance. Some of them seem to consider themselves above addressing the experiences of the typical user, and only interact to justify the hierarchy that exists to serve the interests of the chess.com upper class. 4k's comment was only denigratory, and as a moderator he represents the site. It's untypical for representatives of a particular social or business arrangement to be conversant with or concerned about the inequities embodied in that arrangement.

Do you mean "atypical"?

You have rather grandiose ideas about the forums. A whole social class system complete with government bureaucracy?

That's right

AlCzervik

personally, i think mods like this. i would include staff, except they are rarely ever here.

they see a few members going at each other and, as many conversations go, it is a distraction. one that allows them to either lock the topic or laugh among themselves that they don't have to answer questions, which has already happened once.

shadowtanuki

Perhaps some of the moderators are actually staff members who 'voluntarily' moderate. That would explain why they do PR work for the site without direct financial compensation.

DiogenesDue
shadowtanuki wrote:

Perhaps some of the moderators are actually staff members who 'voluntarily' moderate. That would explain why they do PR work for the site without direct financial compensation.

Sure, because if you work at a fast food restaurant, you would totally volunteer to work there more hours unpaid doing customer service on the side...

Lol. Spoken like someone who has never had a significant job. Even if you love what you do, you are not going to volunteer more hours, especially doing customer service.

shadowtanuki
DiogenesDue wrote:
shadowtanuki wrote:

Perhaps some of the moderators are actually staff members who 'voluntarily' moderate. That would explain why they do PR work for the site without direct financial compensation.

Sure, because if you work at a fast food restaurant, you would totally volunteer to work there more hours unpaid...

Lol. Spoken like someone who has never had a significant job.

Lol

shadowtanuki
shadowtanuki wrote:
DiogenesDue wrote:
shadowtanuki wrote:

Perhaps some of the moderators are actually staff members who 'voluntarily' moderate. That would explain why they do PR work for the site without direct financial compensation.

Sure, because if you work at a fast food restaurant, you would totally volunteer to work there more hours unpaid...

Lol. Spoken like someone who has never had a significant job.

Lol

I imagine the working conditions at chess.com are indeed very much like those at a fast food restaurant

sawdof
DiogenesDue wrote:

... Spoken like someone who has never had a significant job. ...

dang, dio. you seem to have zeroed in on tanuki for some reason. did he swallow your pet frog or something?

DiogenesDue
sawdof wrote:
DiogenesDue wrote:

... Spoken like someone who has never had a significant job. ...

dang, dio. you seem to have zeroed in on tanuki for some reason. did he swallow your pet frog or something?

He was trolling various science threads before getting blocked and is trolling various other threads, he likes to push both religious and political posts, and his profile made it clear that trolling is his express purpose in being here on the forums, so...if you want to say that calling him out frequently is "zeroing in on him" then I guess that's fine. My perspective would be that he had not been zeroed in on enough by mods and staff.

He changed his profile later, but you can still see his "manifesto" on his Trolls Anonymous club:

"I was born for a time such as this

When men sit at home swearing at their computer screens
And the desperate struggle of right and wrong
Is conducted virtually.
When a twelve year old by vulgar profanity

Can outwit the sages assembled
On their grave smartphones
And drive back the horde of bearded scholars,
An ignominious retreat.
Today let the spirit of proud humanity
And juvenile delinquencyBe dauntless in its mission to disrupt the unfair discourses

Of privilege and high social standing.
Let it be tireless in dismantling everything

That bears the shame of making any kind of sense

So we can build a new world on the ashes of the old.
When staid tradition has reached its end
A troll can be your truest friend."

So, by his own narrative...

He's actually too well spoken and not angry enough to fulfill his professed role, but as long as it's his professed goal and he continues to push politics, religion, and generally bolster any threads that attack the mods or long standing posters that he finds to be a "social class" he wants to tear down, then I will keep pointing out every time he displays that he's not nearly as "untypical" as he believes himself to be.

Should he ever decide to drop the manifesto and not purposefully troll threads, he seems like he'd be a decent poster.

shadowtanuki

I swear, I've never seen so much hatred directed towards the fine arts in all my life.

DiogenesDue
shadowtanuki wrote:

I swear, I've never seen so much hatred directed towards the fine arts in all my life.

I don't hate posters. I just modify their behavior.

shadowtanuki

How successful have you been at that? You, the mods, staff, other long standing posters, how's the police work going?