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les170171
I am sorry but you are incorrect- many years of studies and statistics have shown that children playing chess tend to get better results in subjects such as maths ETC - and their IQ s have increased- also further studies have shown that children/adults with learning difficulties /mental illness and such disabilities as ADHD have significantly improved with playing chess- also increasing IQ s in many case studies- of course education is vital and takes precedence over playing chess- and of course it would be ridiculous to say that - as an example- 5 years of playing chess - an average IQ of 100 will increase to 150- but as a tool- with education- playing chess has shown time and time again to have very significant- even profound results- I have a severe mental health illness- paranoid schizophrenia- and I've played club chess for 15 years and in tournaments- I was in hospital constantly- but have been out of hospital for 15 years- 15 years ago I had my IQ officially tested with Mensa - it came back 100 - I was tested recently and it came back 112 - I'm aware that this may be nothing to do with playing chess and being out of hospital for many years is highly likely that I've finally been prescribed medication that works and is beneficial- but what I can say with certainty is that my concentration has significantly improved since playing chess and my academic results- also reasoning skills/motivation/logic and rational thinking- this may purely be coincidental- I'm aware of that also- but when the data comes back with many years of studies and research by academics- it would be very stupid to dispute it !
les170171
incorrect- you can increase your IQ and more than a FEW points - you are absolutely correct concerning education- anybody who disagreed- would be stupid! - but along with other mental exercises/chess has great benefits- and yes has the potential to increase ones IQ - just like education/intricate puzzles- brain games ETC do the same- years ago - people heard- USE IT OR LOSE IT - in neuroscience today their is the phenomenon of what is called neuroplascisity- at first within the scientific community/academics thought that it can occur only in childhood/adolescents- it's now realised that this phenomenon can occur at any age /empirical evidence- I'm not saying- as I said in my last text- IQ will increase from 100 to 150 after 5 years of playing chess- or 10 - 20 - 30 years / but an increase is possible- I suppose the jury's out as to how much an increase is possible- you could very well be correct saying only a few points- but what is known is the correlation between chess and improved academic results- not only in children and adults with disabilities/ but those without- and if academic results improve/ maths etc - that doesn't indicate that an IQ hasn't increased- even a few points for sake of the argument- also life skills such as planning- reasoning ETC have been helped by playing chess- I have contradicted myself at the start of my text MORE THAN A FEW POINTS and then mentioning that you could very well be correct saying ONLY A FEW POINTS- neuroplascisity is basically the more the brain is used the more possible connections are made - I don't think an EXACT measurement of IQ increase is possible- as it would greatly differ from person to person- would you agree?
les170171
I agree they didn't get smarter- they became educated as you rightly say in your text - a person can be well educated and not necessarily have an HIGH IQ - a person can have a HIGH IQ but very little or no education/ IQ and EDUCATION are different- educating oneself helps improve IQ whilst learning valuable information
les170171
the brain and eye are very different organs/the brain structure can actually change/neuroplascisity- chemical imbalances can happen- a myriad of things can happen in the brain- often referred to as the most complex thing in the universe- or multiverse if scientists are correct about that theory- in a nutshell to say it's like a persons eye colour- and that's it - leaves me dumbfounded- although eyes do change throughout life- the brain changes to a far more complex level throughout life!
Jion_Wansu

Why are you talking to yourself?

les170171
my mistake- you said EYE COLOUR! my apologies-.i often talk to myself as lamentably I suffer from chronic paranoid schizophrenia HA HA - please let's stop here - I'm not an argumentative person- and I don't want to upset or fall out with anybody- like ALL on chess.com - I just want to play chess! I'm not going on sites like this again as it justs causes confrontation and upset- all are probably very glad to hear that- I never set out to upset anybody and my utmost sincere apologies if i have- to ALL chess players/enjoy your chess and GOOD Luck!
ChessOfPlayer

No

les170171
my utmost sincere apologies to those I have upset- maybe a scientist can confirm that I'm telling the truth- two of my friends have PHD s in neuroscience- research/studies/data/empirical evidence-quod erat demonstrandum- I apologise once more- upsetting anybody is not what I wanted- I'm not that kind of person- I'm a pacifist- peaceful guy- who firmly believes in PEACE LOVE UNITY! to those that I've upset- very sorry!
Jion_Wansu
DJ-Izm wrote:

Street Fighter 2 was very competitive

You mean is very competitive...

les170171

IQ can increase or decrease and more than a few points in either direction   everybody knows the use it or lose it saying but their is much more to it my friends have PHD s in neuroscience the more the brain is used the more connections are made its called neuroplascisity even people with damaged brains have had great results im not saying that a person can increase their IQ from AS AN EXAMPLE 124 to 174 but it can increase more than a few points in either direction and i said POTENTIAL TO INCREASE with playing \studying chess something i think was overlooked GOOD LUCK TO ALL PLAYERS with their games 

les170171
DR. CAROLINE LEAF / quote - the MORE you USE your BRAIN the MORE intelligent you BECOME !
Esteban_Garcia
Many video games are designed so that you feel as the most interesting person in the world. You are the center of attention, you're relevant, in control. Your actions affect the world. They offer an illusion of power.

Chess is the opposite. That's why I love it. ;)
Esteban_Garcia
'Does chess make you smart?'
'No. I have always been.'
les170171
brilliant- last two messages- it's obvious that you have a high IQ 👍
ricwan17

It pretty cool, but didn't Chess.com say chess is everywhere? Well, they said that. So they can be videogames.

 

ricwan17
UVF02368 wrote:

Video games are designed not to be challenging necessarily, but to keep you hooked.  They are designed to be marketed and sold and make money, not to provide the best game, or the most stimulating, or even interesting.  They are designed to be played for hours on end and not quite exhaust you, just string you along.  They have psychologists work in breaks and rewards, just to keep you pushing that button and playing their video games. Video games are made to make you not think too hard. 

Chess was invented and developed before all that.  It is above it.  It is not marketable to most people because of this.  I have friends that love video games and other board games but hate chess because it's too difficult, it doesn't have the same lab-rat-on-crack effect.

It's the only game that matters.

 

I like all of these! Thank you to these people!

ricwan17

Thank you UVFO2368. I like it.

ricwan17

ricwan17

who is the queen and king here? I am the back rook that is on the right

 

ricwan17

KING RULES!