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Elroch

How friggin' difficult is it for someone like noob to google search "energy storage technologies" or something similar? Is it that the habit of not doing so is too ingrained to break?

fester_forever

They are cut from the same cloth as the twits who drop in to a long thread and ask "what's this about?".

playerafar
fester_forever wrote:

Honesty is the best policy.

Also a sense of humor helps.

But some people think of honesty as one of the worst policies and think that honesty is weakness.

DiogenesDue
Senior-Lazarus_Long wrote:

Republicans think honesty is just a lack of creativity.

Without agreeing or disagreeing, that's as inappropriate as the religious posts.

Elroch

Yes. Please desist, SLL.

lfPatriotGames
fester_forever wrote:

The energy policy transition team for Trump's presidency is discussing eliminating the EV $7500 tax incentive, which might spell doom for US EV sales.

The team is led by Harold Hamm, a billionaire oil man and founder of Continental Resources, an oil and gas company.

That is good news. If something is a good idea, it will sell itself. People will pursue it and buy it and use it, without incentives or bribes. I personally like electric vehicles, but it doesn't make any sense at all to pay people to buy them. Same goes with all forms of energy. If a solar panel is a good idea and makes fiscal sense people will buy it without any outside interference or influence.

mpaetz

So do you agree that gas taxes and/or license and registration fees on vehicles should be raised to actually cover the costs of building and maintaining roads?

lfPatriotGames
mpaetz wrote:

So do you agree that gas taxes and/or license and registration fees on vehicles should be raised to actually cover the costs of building and maintaining roads?

That's a different issue. If it costs 4 dollars to bring a gallon of gas to market, then the price of gas should be something just above 4 dollars a gallon (to factor in profit). It should not be subsidized or incentivized. All energy should be that way.

Building and maintaining roads should be the same way. The user should pay for it. So if an electric car is used on the roads, the owner of that electric car should pay for it. Other forms of revenue for roads could be registration, licenses, or tolls. Taxing gasoline or diesel could run into problems since not everyone who buys gasoline drives on roads. And not everyone on roads buys gasoline. For example, in Oregon there are many areas that have large portions of the street dedicated to bicycles and pedestrians. Yet the owners of bicycles pay no road tax.

So yes, I am in favor of proportionally taxing the users of the road. If 20 percent of the paved area of a road is used exclusively for bicycles, then yes, bicycle owners who use the road should pay for 20 percent of the cost of the road. It should not be subsidized.