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TonightOnly
The stupidest thing is that this puzzle has been posted before on this site a long time ago...
horror987z
if you have

USCF Rating: 1953
FIDE Rating: 2456

i should have

USCF Rating: 4000

FIDE Rating: 5000

:):):):)


horror987z
Hi Etienne.P .:placebo Meds
theCandyman
BlueKnightShade wrote:

theCandyman wrote: I believe this is the position that apple127 wanted to show. It is not actually from a real game, but a puzzle from V. Daiconu in an issue of Die Waarheid, 1967. Please give credit where it is due, everyone.

That is a real beauty. I think that apple127 missed the beaty of this puzzle by adding all those extra pieces and thus missing the points. In the position that you posted if it had been black's turn he would have two possible moves, either advancing his pawn or moving his bishop to h2. After white's first move 1.Qb2! black has even one possibility more, he can now also play Kh2. But no matter what he does he gets checkmated, either by 2.Qg2#, 2.Qh8#, 2.Nxf2# or 2.Ng3# all depending on which move black did.

Any other first move but Qb2! won't make it a mate in two. A very nice problem.


 Yes, in apple127's rendition (assuming you remove all the pawns and pieces not supposed to be there), his rook is not blocking the possibility of 1. Qg8 Bg2 2. Kxf2#, which is a much simplier solution.


DavidL
What about Qb2 f1=N? I'm probably not seeing something obvious though.
apple127
what do you mean? missed the point? I acadently posted it wrong! the position candy man posted was correct. hey blue Knight Shade, king h2 is met with Qh8#. Ha see, your so wrong. 
BlueKnightShade
apple127 wrote: what do you mean? missed the point? I acadently posted it wrong! the position candy man posted was correct. hey blue Knight Shade, king h2 is met with Qh8#. Ha see, your so wrong. 

 Wrong about what?

1.-,Kh2 2.Qh8# was certainly included in what I wrote. This is what I wrote: But no matter what he does he gets checkmated, either by 2.Qg2#, 2.Qh8#, 2.Nxf2# or 2.Ng3# all depending on which move black did.

I didn't type the complete sequence of moves but as you can see 2.Qh8# is one of the possible variations that is included.

Regarding your remark: I acadently posted it wrong!

 That means you did it by mistake, don't you me you did it deliberately? What is the idea by posting it?


Loomis
DavidL wrote: What about Qb2 f1=N? I'm probably not seeing something obvious though.

 1. Qb2 f1=N 2. Qg2#


BlueKnightShade

Seems as if some persons would need to see the complete variations typed. Here they are:

 

After white's first move: 1. Qb2

 

A) If black promotes the pawn:

1.-, f1=Q 2. Ng3#
1.-, f1=R 2. Ng3# or 2. Qg2#
1.-, f1=N 2. Qg2#
1.-, f1=B 2. Ng3#

 

B) If black moves the bishop:
1.-, Bh2 2. Nxf2#


C) If black moves the king:

1.-, Kh2 2. Qh8#


Lisergishnu
I'd love to see the PGN of that game, to learn how i can get my king and queen without even moving pawns Laughing and destroying almost all black pieces with just 5 pieces
DarkPelao

What about Qb1? Still a mate in two with even less posibilities from black

 

correct me if im mistaken but black has no more moves than moving his king up or his pawn up and then its checkmate with Qxg1# 


BlueKnightShade
DarkPelao wrote:

What about Qb1? Still a mate in two with even less posibilities from black

 

correct me if im mistaken but black has no more moves than moving his king up or his pawn up and then its checkmate with Qxg1# 


How would white be able to play Qxg1 if black has moved his pawn up to f1?


jbot43

His first position was illegal anyway. Black's king could not have possibly gotten to the back rank w/o one of white's pawns' moving.

apple127
that mate is impossible benws
hondoham

Solution to puzzle:

1.White is playing against a computer.  

1....Black resigned a long, long time ago.

 boo.. bad puzzle.

 is the board flipped? and black is about to promote .... at least...