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STALEMATE

streetchess101

Just wait till you repeat the same position three times or have an infinity of checks.

StrayCat6120
renansouzones wrote:

But that happened because I left him without any more pieces left rather than the king, shouldn't it count as a Checkmate? It's so unfair to lose with that huge advantage!

Story of my life right now.  I 'beat' the chess.com computer on Level 4 (learning mode, but didn't use many hints after the opening, which is my weakness). I had the computer's King on the board and moved my Bishop out of the way so as not to Stalemate....aarrrgghhh! DRAW BY STALEMATE!

Happened three times in one week. 

Two other times on a chess app.

I got the message:  really take the time to see what's going on EVERYWHERE on the board... because CHECKMATE tunnel vision often leads to major blunders and loss of game; at least for me.

android47

I WAS ONE MOVE AWAY FROM A CHECKMATE, AND YOUR SYSTEM CALLED A DRAW. WHY???

 

android47

THIS HAS HAPPENED MORE THEN ONCE.

 

lfPatriotGames
android47 wrote:

I WAS ONE MOVE AWAY FROM A CHECKMATE, AND YOUR SYSTEM CALLED A DRAW. WHY???

 

Because to win, it has to be checkmate, or win on time. One move away doesn't count. Sometimes a player reaches a position where he can't legally move, but is not in check. That is called a stalemate, which is a draw. 

That usually happens when only the king is left on the board. But sometimes a couple other pieces, that can't move, are also left on the board. It's a good idea to always watch for that at the end of the game. Rather than spend time gathering up more pieces (and risk stalemate) just put the opponent in checkmate.

nklristic
android47 wrote:

I WAS ONE MOVE AWAY FROM A CHECKMATE, AND YOUR SYSTEM CALLED A DRAW. WHY???

 

This game of yours for instance:

https://www.chess.com/live/game/5692551370

When you played exf5 he only had king left. He had no legal moves, because every square around his king is attacked by your pieces but his king is not in check. As he is not in check and can't play any move it is a draw by stalemate. 

If he had a pawn left, he could have played the pawn move and you would get a chance to beat him afterwards.

delacanardo

Stalemates become more fun when you're on the other end of it.
e.g.  When u're down 3 queens and a rook and the opponent stalemates u ... wink.pngsurprise.png

StrayCat6120
delacanardo wrote:

Stalemates become more fun when you're on the other end of it.
e.g.  When u're down 3 queens and a rook and the opponent stalemates u ...

 

INDEED!  I was once down 17 points, not a good game (obviously; I remember trying a new opening move and just blew the opening),   but then again, my opponent had no IDEA how to checkmate,  so I gobbled up all of her pieces until she had two and I had one:  and I got a DRAW because of a Stalemate.

It is quite pleasing to get a Draw, and not a loss, when your opponent stalemates! 

StrayCat6120
android47 wrote:

I WAS ONE MOVE AWAY FROM A CHECKMATE, AND YOUR SYSTEM CALLED A DRAW. WHY???

 

 

Hello Friend,  look up "Stalemate" on Wikipedia. 

This will give you in depth insight into what a Stalemate is, and why it is an automatic Draw. 

 

If you leave your opponent's King with no moves, the game is over.  No one wins because no one gave Checkmate and no one Resigned. 

 

You left your opponent with no moves. Hence:  DRAW. 

 

Believe me, as a Beginner,  I feel your pain.  Until you've gotten a Draw from a Stalemate a couple of times,  you really start looking into how to avoid Stalemate.

 

It's part of the game.  Go ahead and read Wikipedia and then look up YouTube videos that will help you understand why a Stalemate is a Draw.

StrayCat6120
MISTER_McCHESS wrote:
StrayCat6120 wrote:
android47 wrote:

I WAS ONE MOVE AWAY FROM A CHECKMATE, AND YOUR SYSTEM CALLED A DRAW. WHY???

 

 

Hello Friend,  look up "Stalemate" on Wikipedia. 

This will give you in depth insight into what a Stalemate is, and why it is an automatic Draw. 

 

If you leave your opponent's King with no moves, the game is over.  No one wins because no one gave Checkmate and no one Resigned. 

 

You left your opponent with no moves. Hence:  DRAW. 

 

Believe me, as a Beginner,  I feel your pain.  Until you've gotten a Draw from a Stalemate a couple of times,  you really start looking into how to avoid Stalemate.

 

It's part of the game.  Go ahead and read Wikipedia and then look up YouTube videos that will help you understand why a Stalemate is a Draw.

responding to the part in blue and bold.

No, that is incorrect, doesn't matter if the king has no moves.

it matters if NONE OF YOUR PIECES can make a move

If it was just if your king can't move, then it would be a draw before the game started

see? the king has no moves.

that was stupid.

 

I was talking about HIS SPECIFIC game.

 

Troll calling Mensa stupid. 

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

StrayCat6120
MISTER_McCHESS wrote:
StrayCat6120 wrote:
android47 wrote:

I WAS ONE MOVE AWAY FROM A CHECKMATE, AND YOUR SYSTEM CALLED A DRAW. WHY???

 

 

Hello Friend,  look up "Stalemate" on Wikipedia. 

This will give you in depth insight into what a Stalemate is, and why it is an automatic Draw. 

 

If you leave your opponent's King with no moves, the game is over.  No one wins because no one gave Checkmate and no one Resigned. 

 

You left your opponent with no moves. Hence:  DRAW. 

 

Believe me, as a Beginner,  I feel your pain.  Until you've gotten a Draw from a Stalemate a couple of times,  you really start looking into how to avoid Stalemate.

 

It's part of the game.  Go ahead and read Wikipedia and then look up YouTube videos that will help you understand why a Stalemate is a Draw.

responding to the part in blue and bold.

No, that is incorrect, doesn't matter if the king has no moves.

it matters if NONE OF YOUR PIECES can make a move

If it was just if your king can't move, then it would be a draw before the game started

see? the king has no moves.

that was stupid.

 

Moreover, WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT THE ENDGAME.  When have you EVER heard of a STALEMATE in the beginning of a game???

 

THIS is why I never make comments on this site that can't keep their teenage members from trolling.

HahaYeahSure

I'm also new but I'm always upset that it's a forced draw and not a resign. At least it would be a little more satisfying.

Lagomorph
HahaYeahSure wrote:

I'm also new but I'm always upset that it's a forced draw and not a resign. At least it would be a little more satisfying.

Rules are rules

usernameone

Does anyone know why this was called a draw? Skip to the last couple of moves...https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/18889614959?tab=analysis

nklristic

It is a stalemate. Black's king is not in check and he has no legal moves.

usernameone

Can you explain what legal and illegal moves are? And why they are either?

nklristic

Legal move is any move that you are allowed to play.

Illegal move is any move that is not allowed. For instance if your king is in check, you have to deal with that check. Playing some move that would leave your king in check would be an illegal move in that situation.

Second example of an illegal move would be if your king is not in check but you make some move to put your king in check. 

In this game, your opponent can't play any legal move. His king is not in check, and any move he would play is illegal because his king can only move into check, which is not allowed. The name for that situation is stalemate and it is a draw.

So in essence:

1. Opponent's king is in check and the opponent doesn't have a legal move = checkmate / a win

2. Opponent's king is NOT in check and the opponent doesn't have a legal move = stalemate / a draw


After Kb6 it is your opponent's turn. Let's see every possible move he can make:

Ka8 is illegal because that square is attacked by your queen.
Ka7 is illegal because that square is attacked by your king.
Kc8 is illegal because that square is attacked by your queen. 
Kb7 and Kc7 are illegal because those squares are attacked by your king and queen. 


His king is not in check, so this is stalemate - a draw.

usernameone

I thought the computer regulates which moves are allowed and which are not?

nklristic

That is correct, here you can't make an illegal move, that is exactly why this game is an automatic draw. Computer saw that your opponent has no legal moves and ended the game in a draw because there was no check.