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Ethanchock7

Pros/Cons of the Wayward Queen Attack?

Terminated800

It only works at beginner level, anyone above 700 elo will destroy you

Terminated800
Ethanchock7

Thanks!

PastaOfTheMind

It's not clearly unsound, as some other "bad" openings are. Hikaru has played wayward queen on the tournament level and gotten a good position. He (and a small number of other GMs) believe it is not a bad opening. You do have to know the lines though - there are many that lead to immediate disaster for White, and many others that lead to delayed disaster. Terminated800 shows the common, correct response from Black, so that's what you'll face most likely (though there are two other ways to go about defending).

ShikshaWithPraveen

Works, always. The 4 move checkmate strategy

Terminated800
PastaOfTheMind wrote:

It's not clearly unsound, as some other "bad" openings are. Hikaru has played wayward queen on the tournament level and gotten a good position. He (and a small number of other GMs) believe it is not a bad opening. You do have to know the lines though - there are many that lead to immediate disaster for White, and many others that lead to delayed disaster. Terminated800 shows the common, correct response from Black, so that's what you'll face most likely (though there are two other ways to go about defending).

The problem is that your queen is constantly getting attacked and you can't develop pieces

PastaOfTheMind
Terminated800 wrote:
PastaOfTheMind wrote:

It's not clearly unsound, as some other "bad" openings are. Hikaru has played wayward queen on the tournament level and gotten a good position. He (and a small number of other GMs) believe it is not a bad opening. You do have to know the lines though - there are many that lead to immediate disaster for White, and many others that lead to delayed disaster. Terminated800 shows the common, correct response from Black, so that's what you'll face most likely (though there are two other ways to go about defending).

The problem is that your queen is constantly getting attacked and you can't develop pieces

The queen generally retreats to f3, where it is quite safe, and an unbalanced game with chances for both sides emerges (play stockfish against itself for one example line and watch its evaluation slowly shave back down to even!). In some sense many of the lines allow black to "probably-equalize", but they are difficult to play and widely branching and almost no one has them prepared. White's options are more straightforward, hence the notion that it might be playable.

Terminated800
PastaOfTheMind wrote:
Terminated800 wrote:
PastaOfTheMind wrote:

It's not clearly unsound, as some other "bad" openings are. Hikaru has played wayward queen on the tournament level and gotten a good position. He (and a small number of other GMs) believe it is not a bad opening. You do have to know the lines though - there are many that lead to immediate disaster for White, and many others that lead to delayed disaster. Terminated800 shows the common, correct response from Black, so that's what you'll face most likely (though there are two other ways to go about defending).

The problem is that your queen is constantly getting attacked and you can't develop pieces

The queen generally retreats to f3, where it is quite safe, and an unbalanced game with chances for both sides emerges (play stockfish against itself for one example line and watch its evaluation slowly shave back down to even!). In some sense many of the lines allow black to "probably-equalize", but they are difficult to play and widely branching and almost no one has them prepared. White's options are more straightforward, hence the notion that it might be playable.

The queen on f3 blocks the g k night and black gets a development advantage after the queen retreats

TarzanFrFr

99% players of chess. Openings are not that important. I use trash Openings all the time. If you like an Opening and don't blunder in the middle game, I say play it.

Terminated800
TarzanFrFr wrote:

99% players of chess. Openings are not that important. I use trash Openings all the time. If you like an Opening and don't blunder in the middle game, I say play it.

It’s better to play a good opening though

TarzanFrFr

Sure bur if you understand to just develop pieces, castle your king and don't blunder your pieces you will be fine. I literally play 1.c3 for white nearly every game and got to 1500. Just have fun. Learn tactics and don't blunder and you will improve quicker