very high rated, not titled players
Is it a requirement to be titled in order to have a rating above a certain number? If not, then there's your answer.
I first thought you were talking about OTB ratings when I clicked this post.
So, naturally, my question is, if an OTB player has a rating of (say) 2800 FIDE, would the master title be automatic (as in, "hey, you've made it, would you accept this title?" Or does the player have to make a request for title?
My understanding is that titled players can have an incognito account, if the site is aware of it, though I don't know if they still mark them as titled, just give them diamond or what. Titled players can also just create an account without verifying their title and play.
Some titles need just elo requirements. Like FM (2300) or CM (2200). However besides getting the elo for IM and GM you also need to score at a high level in 3 separate events.
Most people know how that works, so I don't think there is much need to list all that here. There is always wikipedia if someone wants to look that up.
As someone has pointed out a lot of the very high elo accounts are probably anonymous accounts of some top GMs of the world.
However I do wonder if FM and CM titles are auto given or does the person who is getting those titles have to accept those titles as well.
Some titles need just elo requirements. Like FM (2300) or CM (2200). However besides getting the elo for IM and GM you also need to score at a high level in 3 separate events.
Most people know how that works, so I don't think there is much need to list all that here. There is always wikipedia if someone wants to look that up.
As someone has pointed out a lot of the very high elo accounts are probably anonymous accounts of some top GMs of the world.
However I do wonder if FM and CM titles are auto given or does the person who is getting those titles have to accept those titles as well.
For FIDE, all the titles have to be paid for, so someone meeting the rating requirements for the automatic title has to pay the fee to actually get it.
That's a great myth. There have been works of fiction about such players. But in reality, a player needs to compete against other extremely strong *human* opponents in order to learn how to win against humans. There is no substitution for OTB competition.
Having said that, there are probably quite a few GMs who have anonymous accounts here.
Some of those high-rated untitled accounts are anonymous titled players. Some of them get the title and free premium membership on their anonymous accounts, and others don't bother.
Some of them could be cheating too, but usually those get caught long before they reach 2700. However, if you think someone is cheating you can report them by selecting Report Abuse from the Help menu, or using this link: https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/emails/new
Titled players are permitted to have a second account so they can play anonymously. This lets them practice their openings without letting future OTB opponents know what they're working on.
Titled players are allowed a second "anonymous" account.
2700+ is most likely an IM or GM.
You probably won't find many hobby players rated above 2500.
I think most of them has to be a tittled player that has more than one account, I dont know why having more than an account is bad, but I knew a guy that was really strong, on tournaments he used to beat IMs and GMs but wasnt tittled, he wasnt even fide rated, he never went to those tournaments and just enjoy playing and studying and have been doing that for over 20 years, so if he plays here probably he can have at least 2600 on chess.com without even been tittled or fide rated, but he is not going to because he and technology are not friends, is the old school that reads a lot of chess books and play a lot
Who knows poker knows that the phenomenon of the internet has allowed the unthinkable: online poker players beating live players!
I think in a few years online chess will be enough for people to perfect themselves and get better without having to join any federation to prove they are a strong player.
Without the internet this would never be possible because it is necessary to play against strong players. But online, at least in blitz, you only need to have a high rating to play against strong players.
But the problem here is the determination of a professional player (aka titled). I could get online at 2000+ without playing OTB, but from now on I know the only way to improve is by spending hours and hours studying openings, endgame, etc ... I will not be competitive against players 2200 or even 2100 without this training . Just using 'natural talent' will not work ...
There are FM on here with over 3000 ratings, so OTB ratings have very little effective use for any argument that GM are the only only ones who can have high rating. Look at players like Tang, he is a beast of a bullet player but is maybe 2600 OTB. Just a couple observations.
There are FM on here with over 3000 ratings, so OTB ratings have very little effective use for any argument that GM are the only only ones who can have high rating. Look at players like Tang, he is a beast of a bullet player but is maybe 2600 OTB. Just a couple observations.
I would to argue Tang rating in 3+2 would be very lesser (1+1 or 3+2). Incremments help technical players. Any blitz players know the huge difference between 3+0 and 3+2. And as far as I know, OTB is just with increment. In a won postion with +2 in each move any player can realize that advantage.
One would to argue the games are no lost because no time to realize your huge advantage and the games are resgined instead. And I would to say: that is because players know they dont will have time to realize good strategic postions so they do not take the time to create these positions.
Whoever saw Grishuck at SCC knows what I'm talking about. He took advantage of the increment in a very risky way, playing only with the increment and using the normal time to think what to do.
Sure, some players are good OTB and online with no increment, like Nakamura. But in 3+0 I dont know players Karjakin or Grischuck would be strong
I did not have to pay for my Title. It's a lifetime achievement award. Just because I'm lowly rated, should not disqualify me from qualifying for a free membership !
By the way, you have to contact them and prove you are a titled IM/FM/GM (...) to get the title. I don't really think that their moderators spend their time checking who has the title.
That's a great myth. There have been works of fiction about such players. But in reality, a player needs to compete against other extremely strong *human* opponents in order to learn how to win against humans. There is no substitution for OTB competition.
Having said that, there are probably quite a few GMs who have anonymous accounts here.
Old post but I disagree. There are some videos of a 2600 blitz player with no OTB experience and no longer time controls.