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RichardMichaelLondon
RethinKING chess
 
Chess is a form of cerebral battle, with lessons for real world conflicts. However, in chess the overall goal is to protect one king and eliminate another.
 
In real warfare:
 
  • Soldiers fight above all to defend themselves and their comrades
  • The king (or general) can be sacrificed (or sacrifice himself), but the war is not necessarily lost. Many is the king who has ridden into battle to lead his men to victory at the risk (or cost) of his own life.
  • Kill one king and another will come along. There is always an heir to the throne or second-in-command to continue the fight. 
Can we give a degree of immortality to the king?
 
ChessKind (King is never dead)
 
The rules are identical, but the King cannot be taken. The match finishes when one King stands alone.
 
ChessKhel (King has eight lives)
 
The King can be taken, but the player must "promote" one of his remaining major pieces to kingship. The match ends when one side has no more major pieces.
notmtwain

Why not put this in the variants forum?

RichardMichaelLondon

Didn't know there was one. Thanks, will do. 

HorusTheThird
RichardMichaelLondon wrote:
RethinKING chess
 
 
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ChessKind (King is never dead)
 
The rules are identical, but the King cannot be taken.
Exempt from check?
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HorusTheThird

Good ideas. It proposes a big change to the game, though.

RichardMichaelLondon

For ChessKind, the King is immortal, so I think he's exempt from check. We could maintain the ritual of saying "check", but it'd be water off a duck's back.

Which is why I prefer ChessKhel, as it gives the player reason to take some steps to protect the King. The King can be put in check and with the the logic of "laying down one's life for one's country", he/it can move into check by his own choice.

evert823

Chesskhel can be interesting. But checkmate with Queen just loses a Queen and opponent will promote a Knight to King.

HorusTheThird
evert823 wrote:

Chesskhel can be interesting. But checkmate with Queen just loses a Queen and opponent will promote a Knight to King.

But is that a downside of the variant? It wouldn't change too much, just by having more cautious mates. Also, knights and bishops would get a large point increase.

RichardMichaelLondon
evert823 ha scritto:

Chesskhel can be interesting. But checkmate with Queen just loses a Queen and opponent will promote a Knight to King.

I'm not sure I follow you. There is no checkmate as such, as this is a war of attrition not a fight to the death. The game ends when the King is the last man standing.

HorusTheThird

Cautious as in you would have to mate them 9 times, and therefore you must conserve your resources. (No more bishop sacrifices!)

Master_Po

Oh.  The title made me think this thread was going to be about Bobby Fischer.  Never mind. 

 

the-one-don

can you win at chess when your opponent has two paws and you have king and queen