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RJF1967

     I was under the assumption that twenty-five moves past the capture of the last piece(other than the king) would result in a stalemate. I can't find any information of this.  I know about the special 50 moves/for a pawn rule, but I want to either prove or clarify the capture of the last piece rule.  Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance,   Rob AKA RJF1967Undecided

tryst

25 moves without capturing a piece is a stalemate? I've never even heard of anyone claiming that, let alone it being a rule of chess.

RJF1967

No: 25 moves past the capture of the LAST piece except the king.

tryst

You mean one side has only a King? Well then if the other side has enough material to mate you, then they have 25 more moves to do it. Thus the 50 move rule.

RJF1967

Yes, a draw is actually what I meant. 

RJF1967

Thanks tryst, that clarifies it for me.

RJF1967

I was reading that the longest game was 249 moves, took 20 hours to complete and was a draw.  This was on this site while I was looking or my rule clarification.

tryst

My pleasure, RJF1967Smile

woton
padman wrote:

Wow, so 50 whole moves. That's an eternity!

I wonder if it's ever actually been claimed in a tournament. I would have thought two sane humans would agree to a draw long before that point in that kind of dead-locked position.


 There are players who will not accept a draw.  When two of them oppose one another, it gets interesting.  I have a copy of a game that went over 70 moves without a piece being taken or a pawn moved.  Neither opponent claimed the draw.  Eventually, one of them made a blunder trying to win the game.  Result:  instead of a draw, he lost.

furtiveking
tryst wrote:

You mean one side has only a King? Well then if the other side has enough material to mate you, then they have 25 more moves to do it. Thus the 50 move rule.


Actually, no, the 50 move rule is 50 moves for EACH player. There is no 25 move rule anywhere in chess.

tryst
furtiveking wrote:
tryst wrote:

You mean one side has only a King? Well then if the other side has enough material to mate you, then they have 25 more moves to do it. Thus the 50 move rule.


Actually, no, the 50 move rule is 50 moves for EACH player. There is no 25 move rule anywhere in chess.


The original post said that 25 moves were already made after the last piece was taken. So 25+25=50.

JediMaster

I understood stalemate to be that you could not make any legal moves.  Usually it means that you only have pawns and a king left.  The pawns are stalled because an opposing piece is in front of them.  So you only are able to move your king.  You are unable to move your king because the only moves available would place your king in check.  That is stalemate.  I think the 50 rule move is a draw and is different from a stalemate.

SpeedySwindler

Besides, captures are a zeroing move and reset the 50-move counter as well as pawn moves

Shanaia201226

is there such 25 moves if you only have a king?