The differance between daily chess and normal chess is you can't really analyze with different piece moves in game in daily you can it might help with analyzing but being good at a daily game and a normal chess game are probably too different things
One of the most frustrating things about daily chess...
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DrSpudnik wrote:
cR1NN wrote:
How about this 4-year tournament that just started the second round
14 days per move is ridiculous.
Offcicial correspondence games are of the type 'n' moves in 'nn' days (usually 10/40). But the rules are very different, the main difference being that all kinds of external aid is allowed (although there are a couple of things that are labelled as cheating).
Jul 25, 2024
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#25
wickedNH wrote:
You can use a library in daily.
That's cheating.
Now I am starting to understand how these 700 rapid players are outplaying me in 1600 daily and how 1300 rapid like yourself are over 2k in dialy.
How could you possibly think that it's ok to use library. Unless you are trolling?
Gottfried94 wrote:
wickedNH wrote:
You can use a library in daily.
That's cheating.
Now I am starting to understand how these 700 rapid players are outplaying me in 1600 daily and how 1300 rapid like yourself are over 2k in dialy.
How could you possibly think that it's ok to use library. Unless you are trolling?
I know a guy that's 2000+ in daily without using an opening book or library lol it's weird how a 2000 in blitz can outplay them dispute them having the advantage
Gottfried94 wrote:
wickedNH wrote:
You can use a library in daily.
That's cheating.
Now I am starting to understand how these 700 rapid players are outplaying me in 1600 daily and how 1300 rapid like yourself are over 2k in dialy.
How could you possibly think that it's ok to use library. Unless you are trolling?
It is part of daily chess part of it is your "supposed" to be able to study or analyze books or other things while the game is going on
Jul 25, 2024
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#28
Of coarse you use a library opening book and explore are libraries. You can't use live data or engines. And that's not cheating.
Jul 25, 2024
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BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Gottfried94 wrote:
wickedNH wrote:
You can use a library in daily.
That's cheating.
Now I am starting to understand how these 700 rapid players are outplaying me in 1600 daily and how 1300 rapid like yourself are over 2k in dialy.
How could you possibly think that it's ok to use library. Unless you are trolling?
It is part of daily chess part of it is your "supposed" to be able to study or analyze books or other things while the game is going on
Yes you are supposed to analyze the game and deep dive and all, but the result should come of your head. Why not just use the engine right away then to save time. If 700 rapid player is outplaying me in a daily game because he inputs some moves from book and plays lines studied and recommended by some GMs that he doesn't even understand, how is that not cheating.
Jul 25, 2024
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wickedNH wrote:
It's the rules dummy.
So cheating is allowed in daily? I want to see the rules first and if that's true, I am not playing daily ever again. I am not interested in playing cheaters and I am not even interested in legally cheating myself, I don't find it entertaining or fulfilling, just a waste of time.
Gottfried94 wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Gottfried94 wrote:
wickedNH wrote:
You can use a library in daily.
That's cheating.
Now I am starting to understand how these 700 rapid players are outplaying me in 1600 daily and how 1300 rapid like yourself are over 2k in dialy.
How could you possibly think that it's ok to use library. Unless you are trolling?
It is part of daily chess part of it is your "supposed" to be able to study or analyze books or other things while the game is going on
Yes you are supposed to analyze the game and deep dive and all, but the result should come of your head. Why not just use the engine right away then to save time. If 700 rapid player is outplaying me in a daily game because he inputs some moves from book and plays lines studied and recommended by some GMs that he doesn't even understand, how is that not cheating.
There will. always be a point in the game were the position enters uncharted territory and the result is decided by the more skilled player. Before drawing your own conclusions on what is and isn't cheating, I encourage you to look at the rules to see what resources are available to you. Different websites have different rules on what is and isn't allowed. This is a link to what chess.com allows.
https://support.chess.com/en/articles/8583921-what-counts-as-cheating-on-chess-com
Jul 25, 2024
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Gottfried94 wrote:
wickedNH wrote:
It's the rules dummy.
So cheating is allowed in daily? I want to see the rules first and if that's true, I am not playing daily ever again. I am not interested in playing cheaters and I am not even interested in legally cheating myself, I don't find it entertaining or fulfilling, just a waste of time.
To my understanding, only the opening explorer is allowed in Daily Games, nothing else is allowed. But it is impossible to determine if someone is using a literal book while they're playing, I mean some daily games take months and if they naturally progress then they'll naturally start playing better. I agree though, sometimes the impossible seems to happen with daily games, and that can cause frustration. I wouldn't outright accuse all of your opponents of cheating though, daily is a whole different ball game than rapid.
Jul 25, 2024
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lostpawn247 wrote:
There will. always be a point in the game were the position enters uncharted territory and the result is decided by the more skilled player. Before drawing your own conclusions on what is and isn't cheating, I encourage you to look at the rules to see what resources are available to you. Different websites have different rules on what is and isn't allowed. This is a link to what chess.com allows.
https://support.chess.com/en/articles/8583921-what-counts-as-cheating-on-chess-com
Like I said. If you are just inputting moves that some GM recommends in a book or video, especially if you don't even understand them, you are cheating. It doesn't matter how you label it, totally irrelevant. And playing that or against that is just waste of my time. I can play maximum level engine right now and have fun, don't need daily game for that and wait 3 days for every single move.
Jul 25, 2024
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#36
You should give up daily. The whole games are usually not all book so there comes a time when one has to rely ones own skill. Some leave book right away. Explorer does have blunders in the master games so you have to be careful.
Gottfried94 wrote:
lostpawn247 wrote:
There will. always be a point in the game were the position enters uncharted territory and the result is decided by the more skilled player. Before drawing your own conclusions on what is and isn't cheating, I encourage you to look at the rules to see what resources are available to you. Different websites have different rules on what is and isn't allowed. This is a link to what chess.com allows.
https://support.chess.com/en/articles/8583921-what-counts-as-cheating-on-chess-com
Like I said. If you are just inputting moves that some GM recommends in a book or video, especially if you don't even understand them, you are cheating. It doesn't matter how you label it, totally irrelevant. And playing that or against that is just waste of my time. I can play maximum level engine right now and have fun, don't need daily game for that and wait 3 days for every single move.
You really need to look up the definition of cheating. Chess.com clearly defines the rules of daily chess and what resources are allowed to be used in a game. Using those resources that are allowed isn't dishonest in any way and doesn't break the rules that are set.
It is crystal clear that your philosophy towards playing isn't compatible with daily chess. Quit playing daily chess and enjoy live chess.
Jul 25, 2024
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#38
MGleason wrote:
...is losing your train of thought and making basic blunders that you would not normally make in a live game.
Classic example: https://www.chess.com/game/daily/671897713
OK, yes, you could avoid this by taking the time to fully re-evaluate the position after every move, and some people do. But many do not.
Setting up conditional moves can also help, especially in forcing lines. It doesn't help as much when the lines are not as forced for your opponent.
I agree. And having a good plan after some think and much later opponent makes a move and forget that you had a plan and do a quick 'logical' move but its not the best move which you had planned on.
Jul 25, 2024
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#39
lostpawn247 wrote:
You really need to look up the definition of cheating. Chess.com clearly defines the rules of daily chess and what resources are allowed to be used in a game. Using those resources that are allowed isn't dishonest in any way and doesn't break the rules that are set.
It is crystal clear that your philosophy towards playing isn't compatible with daily chess. Quit playing daily chess and enjoy live chess.
Bro. Cheating is cheating, all right. I don't need to look up no definition. If the moves are not coming out of your head, it's not you I am playing. That's clean cheating as far as I am aware.
If daily allows cheating, fine by me, I am just disappointed that I wasn't aware of that from the start, that's all. Wouldn't waste my time playing them and wouldn't waste my time in this discussion now either. And you are correct. I am done with daily games. I'll finish what I have and there's that
Are you using the analysis board? You can check different lines and then save them in-game (for daily games only) then you won't forget them when it finally comes along ("move up" or promote the best ones to top). I do this religously. I never use the conditional moves unless its in opening or its a forced move otherwise better to;
The Analysis board seems to be a Premium benefit for paid accounts only, as I cannot access what you described. Would you please explain how this feature, which is evidently okay for use in Daily Games, is different from using an Engine, which is considered to be cheating and thus forbidden? I'd be interested to know, since many of my Daily Game opponents are Premium-level members and can access and save this Analysis evaluation feature. Thanks in advance for your response.
It's different kind of analysis. There's no library or engine access, use of that is strictly prohibited. When you access analysis mode in a daily game, it will only allow you to freely move your and your opponent's pieces. Once you are done calculating and planning, you close the analysis mode and do the move. It's as if you had a chessboard in front of you. There's nothing else to it