Yup. Looks like cheap mobile UI now.
Game review changes are horrible
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May 25, 2024
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#5
As a developer myself, I hate how many developers will just code for themselves and think "wow, what an improvement" and define themselves what the users needs are without asking the users. This visual update was definitely not needed, everything was really fine, visually. Adding whitespace in the interface just for the sake of it is a bad habit to ban.
May 25, 2024
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#6
brice_joosten wrote:
As a developer myself, I hate how many developers will just code for themselves and think "wow, what an improvement" and define themselves what the users needs are without asking the users. This visual update was definitely not needed, everything was really fine, visually. Adding whitespace in the interface just for the sake of it is a bad habit to ban.
There's a whole product team. The developers aren't making the design decisions, though they certainly have input.
May 25, 2024
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#7
Product team should ask load users first, who ACTUALLY use the features fully. Then they could've added the percentages showing as default, which I talked about earlier. And LEFT all the things in there that were -in fact- used.
May 25, 2024
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#8
Also, where is the VITAL information that always popped up with "This is the last book move"?
It would tell you which opening was played and how often you have won/lost/stalemated that opening!!! Or do we have to pay €120 a year for that now??
I agree the changes is very unsatisfactory, inadequate, and is a much inferior to the older design to the game review layout
May 25, 2024
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#10
The new UI if god-aweful. Where are the functions to share or archive? Analysis???
May 25, 2024
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#11
Kenjitsuka wrote:
Product team should ask load users first, who ACTUALLY use the features fully. Then they could've added the percentages showing as default, which I talked about earlier. And LEFT all the things in there that were -in fact- used.
The vast majority of staff, if not 100%< are actively using the site daily. They'll never be able to make any changes that will please almost everyone.
May 25, 2024
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#12
Kenjitsuka wrote:
Also, where is the VITAL information that always popped up with "This is the last book move"?
It would tell you which opening was played and how often you have won/lost/stalemated that opening!!! Or do we have to pay €120 a year for that now??
It's still there. The coach speech box is scrollable.
May 25, 2024
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#13
robosapiens42 wrote:
The new UI if god-aweful. Where are the functions to share or archive? Analysis???
Analysis is the 
icon at the top and those tabs will have the other options
May 31, 2024
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#14
Hi all! Sorry for the frustration with the new version of Game Review. I have migrated everybody in this thread who had a negative experience back to the old version of Game Review (let me know if it did not go through for you). We will eventually be moving to a new design, but will be sure to think through all of your feedback. Thanks as always for sharing your opinions. It helps make Chess.com and the community great! 
Lol par for the course for Chess.com circa 2020, sadly; they butchered the ability to see the 'avg. difference' (which was the average deviation of player move strength from the best machine moves) silently, which is perhaps the single most effective benchmark for whether or not someone is cheating/performing far above their abilities. Since then we've had to rely on their own 'accuracy' calculation, as opposed to the mathematically pure, unchanging, and empirical metric of 'avg. diff'.
When chafed about it on these forums the dev answer was always 'we're aware of the issue and working to fix it'... welp, guess what, two years later and it's still broken; the metric still even has its data field in the 'details' section, but hasn't worked for years. There was zero reason for it to go. It was a made guy, and deserved more respect, but there was nothing we could do. We just had to sit back and take it. It was among the developers. Real normie stuff.
drittman13 wrote:
Hi all! Sorry for the frustration with the new version of Game Review. I have migrated everybody in this thread who had a negative experience back to the old version of Game Review (let me know if it did not go through for you). We will eventually be moving to a new design, but will be sure to think through all of your feedback. Thanks as always for sharing your opinions. It helps make Chess.com and the community great!
All due respect drittman -- and thanks for hangin' around, but who's beta testing this stuff? A closed, internal team? I get the feeling it's a bit too closed, if you get my meaning... this is not how proper development is done, it's working backwards, i.e. the 'release it the way we want, THEN listen to feedback and make retroactive changes' approach. Almost never works well as far as the welfare of the general userbase is concerned.
Now I don't even have engine tab access while reviewing my games... unacceptable, again, moving backwards, not forwards.
As the GR feature was the only value I still glean from the service, I won't be renewing my diamond membership next month after just shy of 10 years as a customer. It's not Chesscom's fault that I no longer require lessons or opening videos, but the way they've handled the feature rollouts is a bit too heavy-handed and gratuitous for me. 'Straw that broke the camel's back' kind of deal.
Adieu, mes amis!
EDIT: Apparently the ability to edit markdown/BBCode is also gone now, so my whole post is in quote boxes. Super!
May 31, 2024
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#16
There’s a club for Beta testers that anyone can join!
https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/chess-com-beta
Jun 28, 2024
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#18
drittman13 wrote:
Hi all! Sorry for the frustration with the new version of Game Review. I have migrated everybody in this thread who had a negative experience back to the old version of Game Review (let me know if it did not go through for you). We will eventually be moving to a new design, but will be sure to think through all of your feedback. Thanks as always for sharing your opinions. It helps make Chess.com and the community great!
Hello, I have spent the last hour in frustration trying to return to the old layout, as the new pointless aesthetic alterations which encourage me to "share" my moves instead of providing me with the information I paid for, is both infuriating and useless. I've already contacted customer support, which has also become placed behind a AI wall now, which I figured out and navigated only after writing a long information dense email which was promptly rejected, understandably adding to my frustration. I had temporarily downgraded from yearly diamond to monthly platinum, but if I cannot view the only reason I pay for the service, game reviews, in a reasonably functional format, I will be refunding my membership and leaving the platform entirely. It's that big of a deal to me.
Jun 28, 2024
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#19
Israel_Blunderson wrote:
Lol par for the course for Chess.com circa 2020, sadly; they butchered the ability to see the 'avg. difference' (which was the average deviation of player move strength from the best machine moves) silently, which is perhaps the single most effective benchmark for whether or not someone is cheating/performing far above their abilities. Since then we've had to rely on their own 'accuracy' calculation, as opposed to the mathematically pure, unchanging, and empirical metric of 'avg. diff'.
When chafed about it on these forums the dev answer was always 'we're aware of the issue and working to fix it'... welp, guess what, two years later and it's still broken; the metric still even has its data field in the 'details' section, but hasn't worked for years. There was zero reason for it to go. It was a made guy, and deserved more respect, but there was nothing we could do. We just had to sit back and take it. It was among the developers. Real normie stuff.
drittman13 wrote:
Hi all! Sorry for the frustration with the new version of Game Review. I have migrated everybody in this thread who had a negative experience back to the old version of Game Review (let me know if it did not go through for you). We will eventually be moving to a new design, but will be sure to think through all of your feedback. Thanks as always for sharing your opinions. It helps make Chess.com and the community great!
All due respect drittman -- and thanks for hangin' around, but who's beta testing this stuff? A closed, internal team? I get the feeling it's a bit too closed, if you get my meaning... this is not how proper development is done, it's working backwards, i.e. the 'release it the way we want, THEN listen to feedback and make retroactive changes' approach. Almost never works well as far as the welfare of the general userbase is concerned.
Now I don't even have engine tab access while reviewing my games... unacceptable, again, moving backwards, not forwards.
As the GR feature was the only value I still glean from the service, I won't be renewing my diamond membership next month after just shy of 10 years as a customer. It's not Chesscom's fault that I no longer require lessons or opening videos, but the way they've handled the feature rollouts is a bit too heavy-handed and gratuitous for me. 'Straw that broke the camel's back' kind of deal.
Adieu, mes amis!
EDIT: Apparently the ability to edit markdown/BBCode is also gone now, so my whole post is in quote boxes. Super!
Well said, I couldn't agree more. The writing is on the wall clearly. Chess.com used to feel like a comfortable lounge, now it's like a walk into Walmart. Use of AI support in my opinion, is a sign of when a company has become too big to properly manage, doesn't care, or is failing. The more I delve into user reported issues, and the responses they Garner, the more I'm convinced renewing yearly diamond is a bad decision.
The Game Review was great; one single list you could easily scroll with the mouse and use the left and right keys to progress through the moves made in the game.
Now the information is somehow split into different parts that are almost impossible to navigate, the layout wastes loads of space AND the feedback does not respect Dark Mode UI (it's bright white).
Chess.com WHY did you ruin such a good layout with no option to keep the old one?
I am not going to upgrade from Gold if you keep this horribly fractured mess!!!
We want all the information in one single tab, that you can simply scroll with the mouse to see everything at a glance: move evaluation tallies, accuracy, individual move feedback, ELO estimate etc.!!!!!!!