But Freestyle chess is basically the Chess960, or Fischer Random, right? I tihnk it would make much more sense if both cooperated and we had amazing tournaments of both games. But yeah, politics is never like that lol I am just too innocent
FIDE, Freestyle Chess, and the Future of the Game
Whichever chess organization is the most committed to reducing its carbon footprint and delivering equitable outcomes to all participants is the one I would support.
I doubt your concerns will come to fruition in a significant way, but I hope that there is at least a bit more chaos over this than I can see
*chaos amongst the organizations. I wonder if non-professional players would even care
Wow, this is quite a development and really adds to the ongoing tensions between Magnus Carlsen and FIDE. The situation around the dress code and Magnus’ disqualification from the World Rapid and Blitz Championship shows how strained the relationship between top players and the governing body has become.
On one hand, I understand the importance of maintaining professionalism through rules like the dress code. FIDE’s statement emphasizes that these regulations are well-communicated and apply equally to all players. It’s also worth noting that Ian Nepomniachtchi faced a similar penalty but complied with the rules and continued in the event.
On the other hand, Magnus’ frustration is palpable. His comments about being “tired of FIDE” and his refusal to comply with the dress code highlight deeper issues—perhaps his sense that FIDE’s rules are overly rigid or out of touch with the players’ experiences.
This incident, coupled with the broader debates around Freestyle Chess and FIDE’s role in the modern chess landscape, makes me wonder: Are we witnessing a shift in how players view FIDE’s authority? Magnus’ decision not to appeal and his defiant attitude suggest that top players might be losing patience with the organization’s governance.
What do you all think? Was FIDE justified in its decision, or should there have been more flexibility, especially given Magnus’ status and his explanation of the circumstances? Could this incident signal a larger pushback against FIDE’s rules and regulations?
Honestly, I think this whole situation is overblown. As a chess fan, I couldn’t care less about what players are wearing—I’m here for the games, not a fashion show. The audience tunes in for high-quality chess, thrilling matches, and the chance to watch legends like Magnus Carlsen in action, not to critique their outfits.
The requirement to wear formal attire might have made sense in the past, when chess was trying to establish itself as a professional sport and gain legitimacy in the eyes of the public. But we’re in a different era now. Chess has grown immensely, thanks to online platforms and the rise of streaming, and most of the audience today just wants to see great games. What a player wears doesn’t impact their ability to play brilliant chess, so why enforce rules that feel outdated?
FIDE should focus on creating an environment where players can perform at their best and fans can enjoy the spectacle, rather than sticking to traditions that don’t add much value anymore. Disqualifying a defending champion over something so trivial feels like a lose-lose situation for everyone.
Whichever organization would introduce greater flexibility into the rules to benefit under-served chess players is the one that truly cares.
I´m sceptic towards organisations whose acryonyms begin with FI. FIFA, FIA or FIDE - noone can own a sport or a game and when such bodies are trying to throw their considerable weight around it usually gets pretty ugly pretty fast. Chess is greater than FIDE. I do hope they do not succeed in breaking Magnus. Stooping to dresscode fascism is, in my book, about as low as it gets.
FIDE is a joke lol
I get where you’re coming from, but I think it’s a bit more complicated than that. While FIDE definitely has its flaws and this situation with Magnus highlights some rigidity in their rules, they also play an important role in organizing tournaments, maintaining rankings, and promoting chess globally.
That said, incidents like this make it clear that FIDE needs to adapt to the times. Enforcing a dress code to the point of disqualifying one of the greatest players ever seems excessive, especially when most fans just want to see good chess. Instead of being a “joke”, I’d say FIDE needs to modernize and focus on what really matters to the players and the audience.
But Freestyle chess is basically the Chess960, or Fischer Random, right? I tihnk it would make much more sense if both cooperated and we had amazing tournaments of both games. But yeah, politics is never like that lol I am just too innocent
You’re absolutely right that Freestyle Chess shares similarities with Chess960 or Fischer Random, especially in terms of breaking away from traditional formats. The idea of having both styles coexist in harmony, with FIDE and Freestyle Chess cooperating, would be a dream scenario. It could lead to some truly exciting tournaments.
But, as you said, politics rarely works that way. Both sides seem to be protecting their interests, and egos and control often get in the way of collaboration. Freestyle Chess is positioning itself as a disruptor, and FIDE likely sees it as a threat to their authority. It’s a shame because, in the end, it’s the players and fans who lose out when these organizations clash instead of working together.
Let’s hope cooler heads prevail in the future. If both formats could thrive under a shared banner, it would only make chess stronger and more appealing to a wider audience. But yeah, maybe I’m just as “innocent” as you are in hoping for that!
I´m sceptic towards organisations whose acryonyms begin with FI. FIFA, FIA or FIDE - noone can own a sport or a game and when such bodies are trying to throw their considerable weight around it usually gets pretty ugly pretty fast. Chess is greater than FIDE. I do hope they do not succeed in breaking Magnus. Stooping to dresscode fascism is, in my book, about as low as it gets.
Ah yes, the infamous "FI" curse—FIFA, FIA, FIDE... it does seem like those acronyms come with a side of drama, doesn’t it? You’d think they’d get the hint and switch to something like “World Chess Federation” or “Global Chess Alliance” just to break the streak!
But on a serious note, I agree that no organization should act like it owns a sport, especially something as universal and timeless as chess. FIDE’s role should be to support the game, not overshadow it with rigid enforcement of rules that seem to serve bureaucracy more than the players or fans.
As for Magnus, I doubt they can break him. He’s proven time and again that he’s bigger than the systems around him, whether it’s stepping away from the classical world championship or making a stand over a pair of jeans. If anything, FIDE’s “dress code fascism” (great phrase, by the way) just reinforces why he’s tired of playing by their rules.
Let’s hope FIDE focuses more on the game and less on playing fashion police. After all, we’re here for chess, not the red carpet.
Whichever organization would introduce greater flexibility into the rules to benefit under-served chess players is the one that truly cares.
I completely agree with this perspective. The chess world is evolving, and organizations need to adapt to the needs of players at all levels. Flexibility in the rules, especially for things like dress codes or participation requirements, can make the game more inclusive and appealing.
Under-served players often face barriers like high tournament costs, strict regulations, or limited opportunities. An organization that focuses on removing these barriers and prioritizing the players’ experience—while still maintaining professionalism—would truly stand out.
It feels like FIDE is stuck in a more traditional mindset, which may have worked in the past but doesn’t necessarily resonate with today’s chess community. If newer initiatives like Freestyle Chess or others can offer that flexibility, they might win the trust of players and fans alike.
It’s all in the Jeans!
Magnus Carlson, once again embroiled with an issue in the trouser department. Though this time, unrelated to anything allegedly secreted in his opponent’s pants!
The five-time World Classical Champion and arguably the best of all time, was in New York yesterday, defending his titles, in the shorter versions of the game, Rapid and Blitz.
He won’t be anymore however, after becoming so incensed by the pedantry of the event organisers, over a minor infraction of the dress code.
Despite donning a shirt, jacket and appropriate dress shoes, Magnus had completed his smart casual look, by wearing a pair of dark blue jeans.
It was here, that he fell foul of a minor rule. No jeans allowed !
An infraction deemed so heinous by the world’s governing body FIDE, that he was fined $ 200 on the spot !
Had it been left there…..the event could have moved on. Magnus had accepted the fine and continued on with his next game
But the event organisers had other ideas.
They insisted that Magnus, go back to his hotel immediately and change out of the offending garment
Magnus countered, that this was a bit disruptive. He had already accepted his punishment and had promised his apparel would be within the guidelines, when he returned to the tournament the following day.
Which seemed reasonable….however FIDE ruled otherwise
Am impasse ensued and was ended only, when an exasperated Magnus, let loose with the “F bomb” and vowed never to compete again, in any FIDE events.
It should be noted, Magnus is the reigning five-time World Rapid Chess Champion, and reigning seven-time World Blitz Chess Champion
This event has only really gained recognition, due to Carlsons’ popularity and participation
He deserves a little bit of respect
I would argue that being asked to pull his trousers down, falls somewhat short of that mark
Well done Fide for reminding us all, that good governance is not granted by those who cling to power and I wish you well finding sponsors for next years’ event.
Hello everyone,
I wanted to discuss a topic that seems to be stirring up quite a bit of debate in the chess world lately. There has been growing tension between FIDE, the international governing body of chess, and a new initiative called Freestyle Chess. Freestyle Chess has gained significant attention for organizing high-profile tournaments with innovative formats and substantial financial backing (reportedly $12 million). They’ve introduced the Freestyle Chess Players Club, a private group of 25 elite players, and are planning a global Grand Slam tour with events in cities like Paris, New York, and South Africa. While their approach seems fresh and exciting, it has raised questions about their legitimacy and potential conflicts with FIDE.
One of the most talked-about aspects of this situation is the potential clash between Freestyle Chess and FIDE over the organization of world championships. Freestyle Chess has hinted at creating its own world championship titles, which has led to speculation about whether FIDE views this as a direct challenge to their authority. Some reports suggest that top players like Magnus Carlsen and Hikaru Nakamura were on the verge of skipping the upcoming World Rapid and Blitz Championships due to unresolved issues between the two organizations. Although FIDE has since clarified that players won’t face any penalties for participating in freestyle events, many believe there is more to this story than meets the eye.
This development reminds me of the 1993 rift when Garry Kasparov led a breakaway group to form the Professional Chess Association (PCA). That split resulted in the existence of two world champions for over a decade, causing confusion and division in the chess community. It wasn’t until 2006 that a reunification match finally resolved the issue. Could we be heading toward a similar division in the chess world now, with Freestyle Chess and FIDE vying for control and influence?
Another angle to consider is the changing economics of chess. In today’s landscape, many top players reportedly earn more from independent tournaments, sponsorships, and platforms like Chess.com than they do from FIDE events. This shift raises questions about FIDE’s role in the modern chess economy. Should FIDE adapt to these changes and embrace new initiatives like Freestyle Chess, or are they justified in protecting their traditional role as the sport’s governing body?
Finally, I wonder what this means for the future of chess governance. If Freestyle Chess continues to grow and attract top players, could we see a fundamental change in how chess is organized and governed? Or will FIDE find a way to maintain its authority while accommodating these new entrants?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on this. Do you see this as a positive evolution for chess, or do you think it risks creating unnecessary divisions? How should players, fans, and organizers respond to these developments?
Looking forward to your insights!