Drawing by repetition BUG
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In game 1, the same position was reached 3 times, therefore making it a draw. In the second game the exact same position was not repeated 3 times
JustAdroit wrote:
In game 1, the same position was reached 3 times, therefore making it a draw. In the second game the exact same position was not repeated 3 time
have you even checked ,bro? The king in game 2 repeated more than 3 times. Whereas the rook in game 1 repeated.
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decoloniser13 wrote:
JustAdroit wrote:
In game 1, the same position was reached 3 times, therefore making it a draw. In the second game the exact same position was not repeated 3 time
have you even checked ,bro? The king in game 2 repeated more than 3 times. Whereas the rook in game 1 repeated.
It's the position that has to repeat. Every piece has to be on the same squares, the same side has to be on the move on each position, and if one position has a possible move all positions have to. For example, castling is possible on one position, it has to be possible in all positions to count. If en passant was possible in the first position, it does not count.
Martin_Stahl wrote:
decoloniser13 wrote:
JustAdroit wrote:
In game 1, the same position was reached 3 times, therefore making it a draw. In the second game the exact same position was not repeated 3 time
have you even checked ,bro? The king in game 2 repeated more than 3 times. Whereas the rook in game 1 repeated.
It's the position that has to repeat. Every piece has to be on the same squares, the same side has to be on the move on each position, and if one position has a possible move all positions have to. For example, castling is possible on one position, it has to be possible in all positions to count. If en passant was possible in the first position, it does not count.
See the last 10 moves. King in moving to and fro between d7 and e7 four times.
A position includes all of the pieces on the board being exactly the same 3 times. (think in terms of a photo -everything must look the same) Along with the same castling rights in each position. The same person to move in each position. And if enpassant was not played.
bigD521 wrote:
A position includes all of the pieces on the board being exactly the same 3 times. Along with the same castling rights in each position. The same person to move in each position. And if enpassant was not played.
That means game 1 was unfairly declared a draw
decoloniser13 wrote:
bigD521 wrote:
A position includes all of the pieces on the board being exactly the same 3 times. Along with the same castling rights in each position. The same person to move in each position. And if enpassant was not played.
That means game 1 was unfairly declared a draw
Incorrect. In game 1, the position is repeated at the end of move 45, 47, and 49 (That circular arrow symbol indicates when the repetition occurs).
Open your game and click on 45..... Rb8+ that is the first position. Then click on 47.....Rb8+ and nothing will move it will look exactly the same. The second position. Then click on 49.....Rb8+and again nothing will have changed and looks exactly the same. That was the third repetition. If you start with 47 .... Rb8+ and play all of the moves you will see in each repetitive position it is always the same person to move. It is correct.
decoloniser13 wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
decoloniser13 wrote:
JustAdroit wrote:
In game 1, the same position was reached 3 times, therefore making it a draw. In the second game the exact same position was not repeated 3 time
have you even checked ,bro? The king in game 2 repeated more than 3 times. Whereas the rook in game 1 repeated.
It's the position that has to repeat. Every piece has to be on the same squares, the same side has to be on the move on each position, and if one position has a possible move all positions have to. For example, castling is possible on one position, it has to be possible in all positions to count. If en passant was possible in the first position, it does not count.
See the last 10 moves. King in moving to and fro between d7 and e7 four times.
There is a big difference between moves being repeated and the position being repeated. You were cycling your king back and forth between e7 and d7 but your opponent changed the characteristics of the position (thus preventing the draw) at key moments in the end. Before white made the move 45.h4, the position on the board had existed 2 times. If it repeated a 3rd time, the game could have been a draw.
lostpawn247 wrote:
decoloniser13 wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
decoloniser13 wrote:
JustAdroit wrote:
In game 1, the same position was reached 3 times, therefore making it a draw. In the second game the exact same position was not repeated 3 time
have you even checked ,bro? The king in game 2 repeated more than 3 times. Whereas the rook in game 1 repeated.
It's the position that has to repeat. Every piece has to be on the same squares, the same side has to be on the move on each position, and if one position has a possible move all positions have to. For example, castling is possible on one position, it has to be possible in all positions to count. If en passant was possible in the first position, it does not count.
See the last 10 moves. King in moving to and fro between d7 and e7 four times.
There is a big difference between moves being repeated and the position being repeated. You were cycling your king back and forth between e7 and d7 but your opponent changed the characteristics of the position (thus preventing the draw) at key moments in the end. Before white made the move 45.h4, the position on the board had existed 2 times. If it repeated a 3rd time, the game could have been a draw.
Then why was black awarded a draw in game 1? i dont see white repeating the position 3 times.
I dont understand why black in game 1 gets a draw and the black in game 2 doesnt based on last few moves.
Game 1: https://www.chess.com/game/121947720226
Game 2 :https://www.chess.com/game/live/122013469554