Forums

Do you find it Odd when a Queen is an Upside Down Castle ?

Sort:
The_Ghostess_Lola

It's kinda annoying to me....yet interestingly inventive. How do you feel ? 

The_Ghostess_Lola

Like this ?....

Martin_Stahl

I don't mind at all. That used to be the way I played when I learned chess and we didn't have an extra queen in the set. Haven't seen it done in a while though.

The_Ghostess_Lola

But that's the thing....How do we know it's a queen ? It could be a horse or other, no ?

The_Ghostess_Lola

That's hilarious 5th !....and thank you for this morning's laff !....Smile....

NomadicKnight

I find it odd when a Rook is called a "castle" (or calling a Knight a "horse" or "horsey"), but no, an upside down Rook doesn't strike me as odd... If you see the felt bottom of the piece on top, you easily identify it as a promoted piece.

NomadicKnight
Martin_Stahl wrote:

I don't mind at all. That used to be the way I played when I learned chess and we didn't have an extra queen in the set. Haven't seen it done in a while though.

I had to do it recently... for a 3rd Queen. Guess who won? Laughing

theboomtowncat

I likes it! a castle doing handstands is way cooler than a little pawn morphing.

Murgen

On a physical board I haven't ever seen a second Queen represented in any other way. Having extra Queens in a set would obviously be preferable, but in the absence of that upending a Rook seems the easiest solution. Smile

theboomtowncat

A dead field mouse also works well, but do state it's a Queen in case your opponent mistakes it for a horse.

madhacker

There's no provision for it in the rules of chess, it's just convention. Strictly you're meant to stop the clock and find another queen I think. So if your opponent promotes to an upside-down rook, you're perfectly entitled to say it counts as a rook, as which way up it is is irrelevant!

Darth_Algar
NomadicKnight wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:

I don't mind at all. That used to be the way I played when I learned chess and we didn't have an extra queen in the set. Haven't seen it done in a while though.

I had to do it recently... for a 3rd Queen. Guess who won? 

Polygamy ftw?

tjepie

is that even legal to turn over a rook and call it queen?

Murgen

According to an older forum topic it depends whether it is a FIDE event (no) or a USCF one (yes), that forum topic is a couple of years old though.

varelse1

I've even seen people turn a pawn on its side, to call it a queen, in bughouse.

The_Ghostess_Lola
NomadicKnight wrote:

I find it odd when a Rook is called a "castle" (or calling a Knight a "horse" or "horsey"), but no, an upside down Rook doesn't strike me as odd... If you see the felt bottom of the piece on top, you easily identify it as a promoted piece.

I promise I won't call you NomadicHorsey....

Pulpofeira

I call it caballo. I couldn't imagine calling it caballero...

The_Ghostess_Lola
Murgen wrote:

According to an older forum topic it depends whether it is a FIDE event (no) or a USCF one (yes), that forum topic is a couple of years old though.

....as to #16 (madhacker):

I had heard it did matter. I will try to get a federation judgement out of the rulebooks now. 

imirak
NomadicKnight wrote:

I find it odd when a Rook is called a "castle" (or calling a Knight a "horse" or "horsey"), 

I do this all of the time in real life when people start questioning me about my level of proficiency at chess. As soon as you mention the "horse" or "castle" pieces, they seem satisfied and apparently cease to feel a need to play. 

The_Ghostess_Lola

From: http://www.uschess.org/content/view/12723/668/

 

    FIDE                                                                                                     USCF

It is illegal to use an inverted rook to mean "queen" when promoting a pawn. If a promotion piece is not readily available, the player must stop the clocks and ask the arbiter for assistance. (Technically, I think an arbiter would be within his rights to rule that the player had promoted to a rook. I don't see anything in the Laws of Chess that require the base of the piece to touch the chess board!) The USCF rules explicitly state that, when promoting a pawn, an upside-down rook is to be considered to be a queen.