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Ashvapathi

There is another thread right now where someone asked about qualifications to become a CM or NM. It was answered that to become a CM or NM at least 2200 FIDE rating was the requirement. But I faced and defeated an NM on chess.com and he was rated 18xx in 5 min blitz. That means, a FIDE 2200 player is rated 400 points less on chess.com. That's just one clear example.

Indirect

The titles are a joke. Here is her FIDE profile. Although I will admit it's a very good joke, chess.com acknowledges those titles and they get the free diamond for life. I'm gonna have to do it the old fashioned way, reach 2200.

Indirect
Ashvapathi wrote:

There is another thread right now where someone asked about qualifications to become a CM or NM. It was answered that to become a CM or NM at least 2200 FIDE rating was the requirement. But I faced and defeated an NM on chess.com and he was rated 18xx in 5 min blitz. That means, a FIDE 2200 player is rated 400 points less on chess.com. That's just one clear example.

That is true. I once played an IM here that had a blitz rating of 2100. However, sometimes people are way past their prime. For example Karpov, he's 2600ish FIDE. He used to be 2800 FIDE, but age takes a toll on you. Since NM, IM, FM, etc etc are titles that you keep forever, then you might encounter an 1800 NM that just isn't as good as he used to be. Or maybe he just sucks at blitz and he's a lot better at classical.

Ashvapathi

Or chess.com ratings(particularly below 2000) are underrated.

ActuallySleepy
lol indirect is the first person who taught me something on this site in about 5 years haha. Maybe it's time we all go on fide online arena and pay for one of those "titles"
Anonymous3128

How are they inaccurate?

 

Indirect
PieceOfPoo wrote:

I know... I will start building that wall, so we don't have to hear any more expert advice from Indirect the chess troll.  

Oh thank you, but I don't think my advice is expert. There are countless people that give better advice, but I appreciate it.

fischermx

Could please, someone, anybody, elaborate more about that Women Candidate Master title? How did this 11 year old girl with 1427 rating, whom Ashton is so proud to beat her on time,  got a title?

 

Pawnpusher3

@fischermx it's very likely that she played in an interzonal or women's world youth championship and placed. Such a performance can warrant a title according to FIDE. 

Ofgeniuskind_closed
Well this has turned into a major argument.
Pawnpusher3

~~~conversation ends~~~

FortunaMajor

I don't think it's so accurate as everybody thinks... All my online ratings are somewhere around 1500, while over the board, I am down to less than 1300... But one theory is that there's too many players on Chess.com...

MickinMD

I think faster times are higher rated here than OTB and daily here is lower than the old postal chess ratings.  I am rated 2116 for Correspondence Chess by USCF -though that's from real postal chess back in the day. I'm hovering between the 1700's and 1800's here in daily chess.  IM Jeremy Silman estimated that live-play games here generate ratings 200-300 points higher than OTB.  Since OTB I've never played a rated game under 30 minutes and I'm awful with short time limits, I can't comment much except to say that the 1100's I've faced here don't play as well as the 1100 high school players I've coached.

AFM_John_Sandora

I have come to the conclusion that playing anything over a 3 minute blitz game is not advised. Maybe you can get away with  3 minutes with a 2 second increment. Over that, and you will find cheating rampant.  Also, the ratings are low and therefore not accurate compared to other sites.  My 2 cents.

miskit_mistake
AFM_John_Sandora wrote:

I have come to the conclusion that playing anything over a 3 minute blitz game is not advised. Maybe you can get away with  3 minutes with a 2 second increment. Over that, and you will find cheating rampant.  Also, the ratings are low and therefore not accurate compared to other sites.  My 2 cents.

I have come to a conclusion that 2¢ on a 5 year old thread has little value owing to inflation. Could be wrong though.

AFM_John_Sandora

as soon as I started playing lower time controls I started winning.  It is night and day.  anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.  I will never play another game over the 3 minute time control on this site. EVER

miskit_mistake
AFM_John_Sandora wrote:

as soon as I started playing lower time controls I started winning.  It is night and day.  anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.  I will never play another game over the 3 minute time control on this site. EVER

Just a quick check of your win/loss/draw stats.

Rapid 17/7/5

Blitz 26/21/6

Looks like you're doing better at blitz.

AFM_John_Sandora

the rapid games are mostly uscf rated and probably less cheaters

ShaunOGX

you're on to something here mate - the ratings are not secure and I and other players I know go through periods where all the players are way stronger than their rating. Lichess is more realistic if you ask me and once my account with chess.com expires that's where I stay.

Ripdraw
Indirect wrote:

Sandbagging here is almost inexistent. People have no reason to artificially decrease their rating. Most people that do it, do it for money tournaments to play in a weaker division (i.e. u2000, u2200 etc) and have a better chance at top prize. Here, the only money tournament is Titled Tuesday, and the tournament isn't divided into multiple sections, so an 1800 WCM will play in the same section as Hikaru for instance.

Thil003, you didn't donate 200+ points to the pool. If you started as a 1200, and you played your first game vs another 1200 that has been playing on this site for a long time, and you lose. You will lose about 180 rating points, while he only gains 8. When you have a provisional rating, your rating increases/decreases by a larger margin than someone that has been playing for a while.

There also is legends tournaments, but it currently is not working