Chess.com Rapid Rating to FIDE Standard?

Matt Jensen, a national master known as @Smarterchess on Chess.com, has been running comparisons for years.

Start here:

https://www.chess.com/blog/smarterchess/chess-rating-comparison-2016

Atleast 2400. But mind you, you need to gain a lot of experience OTB and train hard to actually get to 2200. Just grinding online won't get you there.

Thanks for your answers guys. @justbefair judging by the table you sent me, I am already 2210 FIDE? I'm a bit confused about that. @satan_llama that makes sense- how do you mean by training hard? Do you mean analysing games with a computer (as has been my only form of training so far) or more concentrated training with books?

The short answer is: it is inconclusive. The only way to know is to play OTB FIDE rated chess.
Here is the longer answer:

https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/

Not all rating levels on this site are created equal. For instance, someone who plays 10 minute games is playing in the rapid pool (actually most rapid games are 10 minute games) and someone like me, who mostly plays 60 minute games, is also competing in rapid pool.

For the last 2 years I am rated mostly between 1 600 and 1 700 when playing 60 minute games. This part of rating pool is pretty small, AKA rarely anyone rated over 1 700 plays those kind of games, and certainly they do not play them regularly.

This summer I decided to play some 30 minute chess, with only a few 60 minute games during that time. I played some 1 700 rated opposition regularly, which I usually don't get the chance of facing when I am playing 60 minute games. In around 2 months my rating got to almost 1 800.
Since I like longer chess games, I went back to playing 60 minute games afterwards, and I am back to being between 1 600 and 1 700.

Along with that, from time to time I played some 2 000 rated opponents in 30 minute chess, and most of them plays 10 minute games most often. My results were surprisingly good against them (I got a lot of draws instead of losing almost every game). It is a small pool of games and can be an outlier, but I would say that either someone who plays 10 minute chess is on average slightly weaker than someone who plays longer games at 2 000 rating, or at the very least not all 10 minute players are created equal and at least some of those higher rated people are basing their games on tricks more often than really sound chess. In 10 minute games, time is much bigger factor than in 60 minute chess, so it makes some sense this is a case.

So that link I've given you, take it with a big grain of salt, the only way to really know is to play OTB chess.

You only need 2000 to reach CM (assuming you can hit a soft title requirement.. feel free to message me privately and ill explain if you want to know more).

My peak was 1940, around the last time I played, 1850 rapid had me around 1500 fide. Peak 1550.

The thing about FIDE and live, it really depends where you are. Being in Aus, when I travel to tournaments I tend to see and vs the same people. Same ratings, but growing strength. Our tournaments are so far between that FIDE growth doesn't follow like chesscom rapid growth does.. which is live and games WHENEVER you want.

My estimate based on opponents I played I'd say you would be around the 1700 to 1800 mark.

The real difference in fide vs rapid, is unlike rapid all the players take it seriously and alot train very hard to protect and grow their rating.

Also, give it another 2 or 3 days and I may be 1750ish FIDE

CM is 2 200 FIDE. Exception is if you compete in some smaller country (in chess terms smaller country) and you win some regional tournament that gives the title automatically, or if you talk about some local CM title and not FIDE one.

I do not know why rating 3000 is not yet confirmed.

Do you play OTB in ECF? I'm rated 100 points lower than you on chess.com (playing 15-10, if I focus on 10 min games for some reason I jump to 2000) and started playing OTB this year. I'm rated ~1820 in ECF so if it's linear you'd be 1920. I reckon FIDE is likely harder than ECF but that's just a hunch.

Find a FIDE rated tournament here https://www.englishchess.org.uk/event-calendar/ and find out. Good luck, getting any type of title is an amazing achievement.

Sounds like there are three main factors:

-time control - the longer the time control, the more reliable the rating, since winning a long game implies skill and accurate calculation rather than tricks.

-where you are - a small rating pool can distort the ratings regionally.

-OTB vs online - OTB players may be more serious, travel further etc.

@skeldol thanks. I need to find FIDE standard tournaments because I have only ever played in ECF ones. By the way, where do you play? I'm going to the Fareham Congress in a few weeks

I'm in North Derbyshire, Fareham is a bit far.

I can see you have an ECF rating. Would have thought it compared better to a FIDE rating than a Chess.com rating?

Yes, I'm not sure if that ECF rating is up to date though as I have only played in a few tournaments since the lockdown, and my chess.com rating has climbed by maybe 200 points since my last one.

I think it is really hard to compare the Fide rating (90'+30") games with a rapid or blitz online rating.

I have 2000 Fide but I player my last OTB tournament 10 years ago. Since then, I only played online and my level decreased for sure.

Recently I played some rapid tournament over the board and my performance were around 1850 Fide Rapid. On chess.com I have 2050 rapid, so I would say that in my case:

Elo Rapid Fide = Elo Rapid chess.com - 200

Looking at other players, I see one of my friends that is a strong NCM (2100 Fide) and he has 2300 rapid on chess.com.

In the region 2300-2400 on chess.com CM and FM starts to appear, so I would say 200 points of difference between Fide and chess.com ratings look reasonable.

However, for very higher rated players, the rating seems to be less inflated. For example Carlsen has 2830 Fide and around 2900 rapid on chess.com, so the difference goes below 100.

I have no idea how it works with blitz rating on chess.com. I am weak at blitz, so the comparison would not be reliable in my case.

Thanks for your reply - this is consistent with what I've seen as well. I assume roughly the same 200 point difference holds true of Rapid - Standard comparisons.

I would not bother the CM title if I was you: it doesn't get you to anywhere unless, maybe, some club or tournament makes it free for "titled" players. And even if so, one has to make sure it does include CM titles.

Two things to know about the CM title:

_ One has to ask/apply for it

_ One has to pay for it.

Few in France bother apply and pay for that "chocolate medal".