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Mike_Kalish
zxasqw1212345 wrote:

If I have checkmate in one, I will always stall if opponent doesn't resign. Why should I respect time of the opponent, if they don't respect the chessboard etiquette?

If I have checkmate in one, I just play it. I don't understand the mentality of expecting the other guy to resign. 

Ziryab
mikekalish wrote:
zxasqw1212345 wrote:

If I have checkmate in one, I will always stall if opponent doesn't resign. Why should I respect time of the opponent, if they don't respect the chessboard etiquette?

If I have checkmate in one, I just play it. I don't understand the mentality of expecting the other guy to resign. 

 

I use a moment to thank them for the game. They often then do resign before I play the checkmate, but there is no reason to stall. Another game awaits.

Chesserroo2

Stalling a move before a forced checkmate is not bad if done by the winning side. The loser can just resign. It would be very bad though if done by the losing side. I would question though whether there really is a forced mate in 1. Are we talking lone king and ladder mate?

Ziryab
Chesserroo2 wrote:

Stalling a move before a forced checkmate is not bad if done by the winning side. The loser can just resign. It would be very bad though if done by the losing side. I would question though whether there really is a forced mate in 1. Are we talking lone king and ladder mate?

 

White to move. Mate in five.

 

Chesserroo2
Ziryab wrote:
Chesserroo2 wrote:

Stalling a move before a forced checkmate is not bad if done by the winning side. The loser can just resign. It would be very bad though if done by the losing side. I would question though whether there really is a forced mate in 1. Are we talking lone king and ladder mate?

 

White to move. Mate in five.

 

I know that mate, but many people don't. If it is White's turn here, and White stalls while waiting for a resignation, then White is a jerk, and lower rated Black will think it is because he is up 2 rooks.

Dh33r4jL
+1
CraigIreland

The reason for resigning when checkmate is inevitable is a sign of respect for yourself and your opponent. The thought process goes like "I see it, you see it, good game, well played." The alternative is a bit insulting to both players, "If I pretend I haven't seen it, then maybe my opponent won't see it."

Mattew

I was going to make a joke but nah everyone here is going to hate me (bc my jokes are terrible) but yeah generally you loose like 5 mins for a position that has mate in 5

rakka2000

Very eloquently said. Also sometimes I like to wait until my time is under 1 second. That is to watch my opponent suffer in false hope.

Batman2508
zxasqw1212345 wrote:

Very eloquently said. Also sometimes I like to wait until my time is under 1 second. That is to watch my opponent suffer in false hope.

ok, this is a cultured blitz player lol.

RealGojira

i have two daily games against a good player that are totally lost for him.  No resignation in either.  It's already been over two weeks, and at this pace it will be another month before the end of the game.  I have conditionals for every possible reply, it's been fun to analyze then see the move times for the last 10+ moves, 2-3 days for him <1 min for me for each.  I think there may be 1 or 2 other games in the section for the tournament we're in, after they end, he'll be holding the whole thing up. 

My rule is, if I wouldn't play it out OTB (make a lower rated player show me he understands how to finish, or maybe I actually don't see that I'm lost against a higher rated player), don't stall online.  Respect for the game.   It's like the saying in golf - "you learn more about someone after spending 5 hours with them on a golf course than in 20 years of working with them" - same thing here, some people are jerks, shouldn't be a surprise, but holding up 30 people for no reason in a tournament deserves a special place in hell...

 

Duck

I mean, there's always the possibility that there's just thinking for an incredibly long time, but I do agree that there should be a system to detect stalling or abandonment in games. Of course, there is no perfect way to detect this but I think the amount of time saved by implementing this outweighs the amount of games that would be unfairly abandoned. 

Hello768

+1

jjupiter6
Chesserroo2 wrote:

Stalling a move before a forced checkmate is not bad if done by the winning side.

So there's good stalling and bad stalling? Who makes these rules?

Ziryab
jjupiter6 wrote:
Chesserroo2 wrote:

Stalling a move before a forced checkmate is not bad if done by the winning side.

So there's good stalling and bad stalling? Who makes these rules?

Boomers

ShanTheGreat1

+50 

Chesserroo2

I don't think the bots allow resignation. I can use the back button, but then I miss the analysis. What's annoying is they get 2 queens against my lone king and then dance around the board for 25 moves.

Ziryab
Chesserroo2 wrote:

I don't think the bots allow resignation. I can use the back button, but then I miss the analysis. What's annoying is they get 2 queens against my lone king and then dance around the board for 25 moves.

 

Two queens is mate in four at most.

Chesserroo2
Ziryab wrote:
Chesserroo2 wrote:

I don't think the bots allow resignation. I can use the back button, but then I miss the analysis. What's annoying is they get 2 queens against my lone king and then dance around the board for 25 moves.

 

Two queens is mate in four at most.

Several players at my club do well in the opening and middle game but can't do fundamental checkmates. They just perpetual check. It is different if I played someone till the end before and know they can mate. Here we never play the same person twice. 

curious-cat11

Probably no