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cap78red

the average centi-pawn loss is the loss compared to a computer of each average move over a period of around 30-40 games minimum and mine is 36 - rather suspiciously my opponents is as low as 27.5 for opponents ratted similar to me.

cap78red
BeadsAreBadMMMkay wrote:

Doesn't it depend on the game? If you play games that end early, you can get a lower centipawn loss by virtue of simply not having mistakes in the endgame. Also, do you mean opponents "are" or are you talking about one opponent? If it's multiple, then there really aren't other players who have say 40+? I see a mix of wins and losses in your recent history. That tells me there should be some higher centipawn loss games by your opponents.

sorry i am talking about otb and my last 30 games averaged also there werent any under 25 move draws included.

tygxc

@1

"my opponents is as low as 27.5 for opponents ratted similar to me."
++ Maybe you are overrated or your opponents are underrated.
Maybe you resign later than your opponents, so their same centipawn loss is averaged over more moves.

cap78red
tygxc wrote:

@1

"my opponents is as low as 27.5 for opponents ratted similar to me."
++ Maybe you are overrated or your opponents are underrated.
Maybe you resign later than your opponents, so their same centipawn loss is averaged over more moves.

a cpl of under 20 is a grandmaster performance, a cpl of 150 a beginner its a real judge of ability and a cpl of 27.5 is about 2000 elo level and my opponent average rating was 1550 approx.

binomine
cap78red wrote:
tygxc wrote:

@1

"my opponents is as low as 27.5 for opponents ratted similar to me."
++ Maybe you are overrated or your opponents are underrated.
Maybe you resign later than your opponents, so their same centipawn loss is averaged over more moves.

a cpl of under 20 is a grandmaster performance, a cpl of 150 a beginner its a real judge of ability and a cpl of 27.5 is about 2000 elo level and my opponent average rating was 1550 approx.

Cpl can indicate cheating, but cpl is influenced by a whole lot of different variables so that it isn't so clear cut to say cpl = a certain rating.    For example, if you play a lot of weaker opponents, it is going to be easier to find the best move and capitalize on their mistakes, and so you will have a lower cpl. 

36 vs 27.5 is not really enough to say anything except that one of you has 36 and the other has 27.5. 

cap78red

36 vs 27.5 is not really enough to say anything except that one of you has 36 and the other has 27.5. 

its not one vs another its the median of 30 of my last games

cap78red
cap78red wrote:

36 vs 27.5 is not really enough to say anything except that one of you has 36 and the other has 27.5. 

its not one vs another its the median of 30 of my last games

median is a type of average where you put the numbers in order then pick out the middle value

Optimissed
cap78red wrote:

the average centi-pawn loss is the loss compared to a computer of each average move over a period of around 30-40 games minimum and mine is 36 - rather suspiciously my opponents is as low as 27.5 for opponents ratted similar to me.


Your opponent might have trained himself to play the sort of moves the computer likes. That's quite possible. The onboard engine is only any good with fairly immediate tactics. If all my moves were the same as the engine's, I would assume I wasn't playing well. The engine's assessments can't be trusted. I can think of a few games where, if I'd played the engine's moves, I wouldn't have won because the engine line was drawn by force.

cap78red

its not one opponent because it is otb and you dont play the same opponent over and over and engines play near faultlessly

cap78red

otb means 'over the board' which means real physical games using fide rules and rated using the english chess federation, welsh chess union or FIDE

binomine
cap78red wrote:
cap78red wrote:

36 vs 27.5 is not really enough to say anything except that one of you has 36 and the other has 27.5. 

its not one vs another its the median of 30 of my last games

median is a type of average where you put the numbers in order then pick out the middle value

Why choose median over mean?  Also, I misread, are you saying multiple OTB opponents are 27.5 and you have 36, or only 1 opponent? 

cap78red
binomine wrote:
cap78red wrote:
cap78red wrote:

36 vs 27.5 is not really enough to say anything except that one of you has 36 and the other has 27.5. 

its not one vs another its the median of 30 of my last games

median is a type of average where you put the numbers in order then pick out the middle value

Why choose median over mean?  Also, I misread, are you saying multiple OTB opponents are 27.5 and you have 36, or only 1 opponent? 

multiple otb opponents how many times do i have to state this

cap78red

median is used by the anti-cheat software people according to one of them

Free_elo_on_offer

How to see centipawn loss?

cap78red

i do it on chessbase @free_elo_on_offer

AlbusPercivalDumbledore

is a cpl of 60 good for 1600 on chess.com?

Flatearthguy

Btw I can’t find acpl in game analysis anymore. It used to be in details section of game analysis.

cap78red
Flatearthguy wrote:

Btw I can’t find acpl in game analysis anymore. It used to be in details section of game analysis.

like i cant find a flat earth anymore-it used to be in terry pratchett novels

putshort
“the average centi-pawn loss is the loss compared to a computer of each average move over a period of around 30-40 games minimum”

The games also have to be a minimum of 35 to 40 moves.
RealGojira

why don't you insert a link of a zip to your last 100 games so others can "corroborate" your "work"??