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Mr-Daniel-J-Steevens

When do you progress from what would be called a beginner to an intermediate?  Is it just when you reach a certain rating?  If you are below an "intermediate rating", but have been playing chess for years, can you really still be considered a beginner?  Perhaps instead of progressing from beginner to intermediate, it's more like a progression of beginner to bad chess player?  Thoughts?

NMRhino
Not you.
Jalex13
Most people around here will say intermediate is 1200-1600. I personally think intermediate is like 1600 -2000 on chess.com. It all depends on point of view.
CraigIreland

I searched and found this for you. There's no authority on terms like intermediate, but this looks like a reasonable way to categorise players: http://beginchess.com/2009/08/02/anatomy-of-a-chess-player-from-beginner-to-expert/

Caffeineed
Never
Mr-Daniel-J-Steevens
NMRhino wrote:
Not you.

Lol, do you play those daily (*cough* engine *cough*) games just so it says 1700 on your profile preview?  You're barely 1200 blitz, I could probably beat you 5 out of 10 games. 

 

EDIT: Actually probably more like 7 out of 10 I'd win against you.  Did I say probably?  I should have said definitely. 

ESP-918

1600+  blitz chess.com is intermediate 

Gabberl

it depends on how the person feels about their chess skill. There is this where when the person thinks they're good at something, they usually turn out to be bad at that one thing. Since the average rating for rapid is 1200, I believe that 1200 is considered as "intermediate" and anything above it is probably adavanced.

Duck

Intermediate OTB is like 1200-1400. Intermediate for bullet on chess.com is 1800-2100. Intermediate for blitz on chess.com is 1600-1900. Intermediate for rapid on chess.com is 1500-1800. 

Duck
CooloutAC wrote:
ScatteredWealth wrote:

Intermediate OTB is like 1200-1400. Intermediate for bullet on chess.com is 1800-2100. Intermediate for blitz on chess.com is 1600-1900. Intermediate for rapid on chess.com is 1500-1800. 

I'd disagree with your assertions.  Blitz is generally the lower rated.   Look at the global graph.  only 99k are 1600 in blitz.    Almost 159k  are 1600 in rapid.   Meanwhile blitz and bullet are by far more popular.

Like I tried to explain to you in the other thread.  The middle time control is the hardest for most people to adapt to when the also play each other end of the spectrum.    Blitz will require the balance of all aspects and chess skills and is the time control you use to  judge someones general chess strength online is blitz.   In OTB it is rapid.


Sure, that seems logical. I'm just concerned about all the inactive accounts out there. Also, I'm kind of biased. I struggle with longer time controls while I can handle faster time controls to a greater extent. Great assertion though! Thanks for your opinion! 

llama36

I think it depends on your goals and the people you're around.

If your goal is to be a GM, and your local club is full of titled players, maybe you'll think of 2200 as intermediate. Ronen Har-Zvi had some story like this... and since in the past you couldn't even get a FIDE rating if you were below 2200, then I'm sure talented youth players (who had goals beyond the GM title) would think of 2200 as beginner.

But for you, if you started at sub 500 on chess.com and your goal is a 4 digit rating, then maybe 800 or 1000 is intermediate to you.

For me, my club experience was the best players were masters (2200-2300) and in the middle was something like 1500.

Also for me, it wasn't until about 1200-1300 OTB that I was consistently not giving away pieces for free, and consistently winning pieces or pawns when my opponent offered them. So for me there are defining points at 1300 and 1600 (because 1600 is when I consistently started to apply basic strategic ideas to my games instead of just looking for tactics and keeping my pieces active).

(that's not to say you only need to have tactics up to 1600... positional ideas are very useful like outposts, open files, etc... when I use the words positional and strategic I mean two different things)

tygxc

Strong / weak / intermediate are all relative: they depend on perspective and lie in the eye of the beholder.

llama36
technical_knockout wrote:

intermediate is when you stop dropping material for free & start studying chess.

I know we could set the line anywhere, but I like this. Simple and straightforward.

Jimemy
JohannesAlexei skrev:
Until 1800 you’re a beginner

Lol. Checking the account, brand new account, makes sense. 

idilis
Mr-Daniel-J-Steevens wrote:

When do you progress from what would be called a beginner to an intermediate?  Is it just when you reach a certain rating?  If you are below an "intermediate rating", but have been playing chess for years, can you really still be considered a beginner?  Perhaps instead of progressing from beginner to intermediate, it's more like a progression of beginner to bad chess player?  Thoughts?

Whenever you like, since these are just arbitrary terms unlike idiot, imbecile, moron which have specified IQ ranges before those were outdated.

NMRhino
Mr-Daniel-J-Steevens wrote:
NMRhino wrote:
Not you.

Lol, do you play those daily (*cough* engine *cough*) games just so it says 1700 on your profile preview?  You're barely 1200 blitz, I could probably beat you 5 out of 10 games. 

 

EDIT: Actually probably more like 7 out of 10 I'd win against you.  Did I say probably?  I should have said definitely. 

 

I've seen national masters with 1200 rapid rating, why? not because thats their rating but because they dont play rapid. I dont play blitz because I don't enjoy it and it builds bad habits on your game, probably why your rapid rating is so low. But play me in blitz and wel'll see who wins. Your probably too scared too though,

 

NMRhino

just checked his blitz rating loll this kid is rated 800, i can beat you every game we play easily. if i took my blitz seriously I could probably get to around 1500

NMRhino

rapid and classical games are skill, and bullet shows your intuition , blitz really doesn't do anything and is boring, after I get my rapid rating to 2000, hopefully by the end of the year, I'm going to start focusing on improving my blitz and bullet

Menocool69a
NMRhino wrote:
Mr-Daniel-J-Steevens wrote:
NMRhino wrote:
Not you.

Lol, do you play those daily (*cough* engine *cough*) games just so it says 1700 on your profile preview? You're barely 1200 blitz, I could probably beat you 5 out of 10 games.

EDIT: Actually probably more like 7 out of 10 I'd win against you. Did I say probably? I should have said definitely.

I've seen national masters with 1200 rapid rating, why? not because thats their rating but because they dont play rapid. I dont play blitz because I don't enjoy it and it builds bad habits on your game, probably why your rapid rating is so low. But play me in blitz and wel'll see who wins. Your probably too scared too though,

Who needs rapid?

I can play the 3200 elo bot on chess.com because I play 1 min, and that bot has no idea how to time scramble. That is also why me, Super GM Menocool *coughs* can beat all of you in blitz, so yall definitely should stop flexing.

Before you guys bombard me, I will throw in a question;

Has any of you beat stockfish before without cheating?

Exactly.

SeanTheSheep021

This player’s level is quite intermediate ig