Black missed 17... Nxe5, looks strong to me.
I liked your finish.
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Black already missed Nxe5 at move 14.
White pulls a nice swindle at the end of the game once he starts playing on the right side of the board.
11. Qb3 seems wrong. All white's other pieces point to the kingside, where black has a weak pawn structure and no piece protection.
14. Qa4 is a mistake due to 14. ... Nxe5 mentioned above. Also, white is still playing on the wrong side of the board.
15. b4? looks like it loses a pawn as in the game.
22. Bd3 seems to lose time. Bxh6 right away will keep black from playing Rf7 later.
17... Nxe5 is stronger than 14... Nxe5. There is a big difference
The big difference between Nxe5 at move 14 and 17 is that move 14 comes first. You can't pass up the opportunity at move 14 in the hopes that it will be better later.
Yup, nice finish. You should go for the kingside straight away though, thats the way to play as white against the french
26. . . . Rfa7
14... Nxe5 is the best move at move 14 that I can see. But it isn't exactly winning. 17....Nex5 ends the game abruptly as it wins the queen.
Yes, 14... Nxe5 should have been played, but 17... Nxe5 was a MUCH bigger oversite.
oginschile wrote:
14... Nxe5 is the best move at move 14 that I can see. But it isn't exactly winning. 17....Nex5 ends the game abruptly as it wins the queen.
Yes, 14... Nxe5 should have been played, but 17... Nxe5 was a MUCH bigger oversite.
youre analysis is right but if a better player is playing, after you missed 14. ... Nxe5 he can already save himself. moves from 15-17 is not forced. sday 15 Nxc8 and Nxe5 lost it sting. well correct me if im wrong.
You are not wrong. I don't think this is a situation where anyone is wrong. I simply wanted to say it was a good game, and point out the move that jumped out at me personally.
Loomis' analysis is good, and correct (from what I can see). I'm simply saying that my suggestion was not wrong, just because the same move (albeit a very different outcome) could have been made 3 moves earlier. The situation is very different between the two positions.
Do we stop analyzing a game after the first missed move?
17... Nxe5 is an instant winner in my opinion. It's all I'm saying.
14... Nxe5 was also the best move. But there were better moves even before that. Just as the rest of Loomis' recommendations look good to me at first glance.
But the final offensive on the kingside is pretty.
Thank you all for that. I totally missed 14... Nxe5 and 17... Nxe5
Great analysis.
oginschile wrote:
You are not wrong. I don't think this is a situation where anyone is wrong. I simply wanted to say it was a good game, and point out the move that jumped out at me personally.
Loomis' analysis is good, and correct (from what I can see). I'm simply saying that my suggestion was not wrong, just because the same move (albeit a very different outcome) could have been made 3 moves earlier. The situation is very different between the two positions.
Do we stop analyzing a game after the first missed move?
17... Nxe5 is an instant winner in my opinion. It's all I'm saying.
14... Nxe5 was also the best move. But there were better moves even before that. Just as the rest of Loomis' recommendations look good to me at first glance.
But the final offensive on the kingside is pretty.
I think you have a point. The best move at 14 is Nxe5, but you can't choose not to make it hoping that your opponent is going to miss is. The best way to win is to expect the best from your opponent. I missed it, and so did he. He could have won at move 17, and missed again. Thanks for the insight.
oginschile wrote:
14... Nxe5 is the best move at move 14 that I can see. But it isn't exactly winning. 17....Nex5 ends the game abruptly as it wins the queen.
Yes, 14... Nxe5 should have been played, but 17... Nxe5 was a MUCH bigger oversite.
I never disagreed with you that 17. ... Nxe5 is winning. I simply pointed out the idea was there as early as move 14. And to say that it's not winning on move 14 is just silly. After 14. ... Nxe5 the queen moves and black has Nxf3+ and Qxd6 to be up a piece and a pawn.
Loomis wrote:
Black already missed Nxe5 at move 14.
White pulls a nice swindle at the end of the game once he starts playing on the right side of the board.
11. Qb3 seems wrong. All white's other pieces point to the kingside, where black has a weak pawn structure and no piece protection.
14. Qa4 is a mistake due to 14. ... Nxe5 mentioned above. Also, white is still playing on the wrong side of the board.
15. b4? looks like it loses a pawn as in the game.
22. Bd3 seems to lose time. Bxh6 right away will keep black from playing Rf7 later.
22. BXh6 allows 22. NXB forking King and Queen.
Oops, good catch, Ricardo.
why did black resign?
He seems to have enough pices for a strong attack on kingside after winning knight and bishop/rook. and 2 passed pawns.
An attack gone wrong on the queen side and I decided for the chances on the king side and won. How important is it to follow the opening or defense rule about what side to attack according to everyone's real possibilities. My opponent missed a couple of way outs... any ideas...?