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kit1197

 I'm a relative beginner (probably around 800) and I keep hearing how important it is to analyze games that I play.  I want to do that but feel lost. I hear that it isn't a good idea to use engines, but how else would I detect my blunders?   A chess engine might say I blundered where I missed some tactic I know nothing about.  At my level, I'm hanging pieces a lot and missing where my opponent is probably doing the same thing.

I don't want to rely on an engine and I don't want to passively click through the moves.  I just don't know what to look for or how to recognize when I've made an error.  When using the Lichess analysis on a game, it showed me blunders and arrows that indicated what the best move would have been.  A couple of times I saw why what I did was a mistake, yet did not understand why the suggested move was so much better than an alternative I'd have come up with instead.

This is my first time posting here as I just discovered this forum.  Thanks for reading this and for what advice anyone can offer about this.

Monique from Ottawa, Canada

AtaChess68

I can tell you what I do (but I think some people disagree with my method).

I use the engine to check which moves lead to a drop of more then 3.00. Then I study this move without the engine.
- why does the eval bar drops?
- what was I thinking and what should I have been thinking?
- is it an incident or is there a pattern?

This way I neglect all the subtle engine advices (because most of the time they are over my head). I only use the engine to pick positions I am gonna study.

kit1197

I can see why it's best just to identify blunders.  I have no real clue what I'm doing so I couldn't really identify what I was thinking.  I've not played enough games to identify any patterns yet.  I suspect most of my blunders are hanging pieces. wink.png

AtaChess68
Well there you have it. You suspect a pattern, hanging pieces. Now check your future games for that pattern. I think that is very useful level 800 analysis. Nothing more needed (and no engine needed too).
chesslearning

I don't see anything wrong with using an engine. Analyze the game yourself first, then use an engine. A hanging piece blunder should be apparent using an engine by looking at the engine's best move (or moves) for the opponent right after your blunder. The opponent might miss your hanging piece, but the engine won't. It's not always easy to know why the engine downrated your move, but hanging pieces and tactical blunders should be clear. If you follow the engine moves right after your blunder, there should be a clear change... either a loss of material or checkmate threat.

It could be that the blunder only becomes fully apparent after 3-4 moves... not right on the next move.

kit1197

I mostly use Lichess since I really like their study feature--not to mention that everything there is free.  I used this study feature to analyze a blitz game without an engine.  It was probably overkill. Here is a link.  Hopefully you'll be able to view it.

https://lichess.org/study/9VCfwRIe

My next step with this game will be to run it through the engine with the option to see best move turned off,  to see which moves have blunders and comment on those. What was my mistake?  What would have been a better move.

hrarray
Maybe look at the engine lines to see what is wrong with your move
RSK_THE_RAISTER

[Site "Chess.com"]

[Result "*"]

[WhiteElo "889"]

[BlackElo "864"]

[TimeControl "600"]

[Termination "RSK_THE_RAISTER won on time"]

1. e4 e5 2. Qf3 Nf6 3. Bc4 d6 4. d3 Bg4 5. Qe3 Nc6 6. Bb5 a5 7. h3 Be6 8. Nc3

Ke7 9. Qg3 Nd4 10. Ba4 c6 11. Nge2 Nxe2 12. Nxe2 d5 13. exd5 cxd5 14. d4 exd4

15. Nxd4 Rc8 16. c3 b6 17. O-O h5 18. Re1 Ne4 19. Qh4+ f6 20. f3 Rc4 21. Nc6+

Rxc6 22. Bxc6 Qd6 23. Ba4 Nc5 24. Bc2 Kd8 25. Bf4 Qc6 26. b3 g5 27. Bxg5 fxg5

28. Qxg5+ Kc8 29. Bg6 Rg8 30. Qxh5 Nd3 31. Re3 Qxc3 32. Rb1 Rxg6 33. Qxg6 Qc2

34. Qe8+ Kc7 35. Rf1 Bc5 36. Qxe6 Nf4 37. Qf7+ Kc6 38. Qxf4 Qd2 39. Qf6+ Kb5 40.

a4+ Kb4 41. Qf4+ Ka3 42. Ra1+ Kb2 43. Kh1 Bxe3 44. Qf6+ Bd4 45. Qf4 Qxf4 46. g3

Qxf3+ 47. Kh2 Kxa1 48. h4 Qf2+ 49. Kh3 Be5 50. Kg4 Qxg3+ 51. Kf5 Qf4+ 52. Ke6 d4

53. h5 d3 54. h6 d2 55. h7 d1=Q 56. h8=Q Bxh8 *

Pandu555555

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/121871887172?tab=analysis&move=0

magipi

White blundered a bishop on move 6 and you didn't take it.That's something you should try to fix.

Then the guy blundered another piece than the queen.White apparently is a very bad player.