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CPawn

Try completing a mate with 2 bishops vs. King before the 50 move rule.  King and Rook vs. King is EASY in comparison.

Paranoid-Android
BlipBop711 wrote:
SirDavid wrote:

"i have rarely seen this b4 .----- "

Off topic, but I doubt you've ever seen it before. That position is impossible since Black's only legal last move was Kb8-a8 and in that situation the pawn can't be at a7 (if it was, Black would have been in check from the pawn after the move before as well, which is illegal). It's not important, but I just found your choice of words coupled with the position somewhat ironic and thought others may find it funny as well.


 but its whites move mate in one


 It can't be white's move, because black was stalemated two moves before or it moved towards the center (also 2 moves before) - allowing pawn to promote (which nobody would do). No matter which combination of moves were played, this position is indeed impossible. You have to consider that black's king can't just wait on one square, it has to move at every move, since it's the only black's piece on the board.

NEPatriots27

wh oh well that was my bad mistake i meant to redoo that one .

NEPatriots27
CPawn wrote:

Try completing a mate with 2 bishops vs. King before the 50 move rule.  King and Rook vs. King is EASY in comparison.


 yes but it just seems so hard

stonesikich

knight + bishop 

NEPatriots27

thats what im turning to knight + bishop is the hardest any more thoughts?!?!?!?!

NEPatriots27

i wonder if queen plus king is same as king plus rook??

NEPatriots27

lol

NEPatriots27

what about a Bishop and King vs King and pawn???

NEPatriots27

so have we come to a conclusion ? or are there any more checkmates ??

marvellosity

B+B vs K is relatively easy. Just force the king to the side of the board and work out how to shuffle the bishops to avoid stalemate and deliver mate.

I could also do R+K blindfolded.

B vs K+P is impossible except for extreme situations where the King has managed to back itself into a corner behind its pawn.

Of all the 'basic' mates, B+N is the only one I wouldn't feel confident achieving within the 50 move rule.

marvellosity

There are some quite pretty little dances in R+K mates actually, here's one, with a sideline:

NEPatriots27

i asked my teacher today which one is the hardest he said BIshop and KNight

thelastemo1

this is a very entertaining thread =)

NEPatriots27

thanks!!!

ADK

It's definitely: King, Knight, Bishop VS. King.

ADL

NEPatriots27

well yes , but i still think Bishop and Knight is the hardest

amiraz

I think that Q+K vs R+K is much harder than K+B+N vs K because in R vs Q there are more posibilities for both sides so the position is much more complex.

NEPatriots27

but t like takes forever to mate with knight and bishop

NEPatriots27

but here is a link to the knight and bishop mate -here is a video link on this mate   , but yours could still be harder