Why is everyone low rated so ridiculously good?
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I had the same problem. People usually go way down then start to get good and climb back up. Others have more than one account as well so that may have something to do with it as well. I’ve been at around 700 for a few months now. I was at 450 for a while
EverSnaxolotl wrote:
Are people intentionally keeping their rating down so they can smack Newbies around?
Yes. It's an old trick that's a time honored tradition.
JackRoach wrote:
When I first joined, I could beat most of my family so I thought I was an "intermediate" player. It turned out I was not 1200, I was 800 rated to my dismay. Sometimes you think you are good, when in reality you are not.
+1
It's like anything else in life. If ur competition is limited (such as u only compete in art competitions against ur school or race only kids in ur neighborhood, etc) u can be easily misled as it relates to how good u think u r. If ur frame of reference is too limited ur never gonna know what level u really r. Same with chess, carpentry, math, fighting, anything. U have to expand ur horizons in everything u do.
Its like playing kids in an OTB tournament. You have no idea how strong they are and their rating is guaranteed to be wrong. It would be nice if the GLICKO RD value came back (it is hidden right now), or to have a setting where you only play people with 50 or more games completed.
Jan 25, 2021
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#46
llama47 wrote:
When I made my account on a PC there were 5 options like "new, beginner, intermediate, etc"
It doesn't tell you, but that will set your initial rating. I think the lowest starts you at 600 but I'm not sure.
I didn't consider how people leaving the game would unfairly pump up your rating. Yeah, that would be frustrating.
i chose 'beginner' and it started me at 800. i think it starts you at 1000 if you choose 'intermediate.'
There are a lot of new users these days as well, who may be good chess players in their own right but don't yet have an accurate rating on chess.com. Every time I start a new daily game with a low rated player these days, it's often someone's first or second game on the site. When I play them again later, their rating is often much higher.
Jan 25, 2021
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#48
I just played a 5 minute Blitz against another 600 rated opponent. It went 50 moves with 90% & 80% accuracy.
I saw Hikaru getting slapped around by an engine and after a while he was so demoralised and depressed that he was just hoping for a draw in every game. It was sad for me to watch.
One of the reasons is inflation of talent. I've played hundreds of games against computer opponents and the people that have beat me probably have done the same and they have lost to people that have done the same.
Why does everyone here believe that I think I'm good? I never said that. In fact I literally called myself a beginner (even though I'm not quite as new as some people who start out here). My problem here is that you're being matched against experienced players right away. Why am I at over 1000 rating if that's not a Beginner level?
EverSnaxolotl wrote:
Why does everyone here believe that I think I'm good? I never said that. In fact I literally called myself a beginner (even though I'm not quite as new as some people who start out here). My problem here is that you're being matched against experienced players right away. Why am I at over 1000 rating if that's not a Beginner level?
You are 4-3 so far. Fairly 3-3 as one match appears to be an abandonment. That's evenly matched based on the existing objective evidence.
Also, you have played six games and that is far from a sufficient sample to make any conclusions about any of this.
Jan 26, 2021
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EverSnaxolotl wrote:
Why does everyone here believe that I think I'm good? I never said that. In fact I literally called myself a beginner (even though I'm not quite as new as some people who start out here). My problem here is that you're being matched against experienced players right away. Why am I at over 1000 rating if that's not a Beginner level?
you chose to start at 1000 because you identified yourself as an intermediate player. had you identified yourself as a beginner, you would have started at 800.
dlkaz57 wrote:
EverSnaxolotl wrote:
Why does everyone here believe that I think I'm good? I never said that. In fact I literally called myself a beginner (even though I'm not quite as new as some people who start out here). My problem here is that you're being matched against experienced players right away. Why am I at over 1000 rating if that's not a Beginner level?
you chose to start at 1000 because you identified yourself as an intermediate player. had you identified yourself as a beginner, you would have started at 800.
He did start at 800. Because he was so overmatched and inexperienced yet forced to play these wizard 800ish players he won his first game handily and went up a bunch of points. The whole thing is a bit incoherent and unclear as to what the problem is. He's played several evenly matched games that could have went either way. He's probably fairly 1000 in that pool or close to it if he were to keep playing.
Had he actually been overmatched and lost his first few games the rating would have plummeted to the 500 range.
I keep trying to get games close to or higher than my rating, and something seems to be wrong with the site. I request a game with an opponent between -25 and +200, and what I keep getting are games with opponents about 400 points below my rating. Am I missing something here?
Depends on the size of the pool when you are starting the game I think. There may not be that many people looking for games right then and it just gives you the best it can out of those looking at the time.
Which is why for daily I just use tournaments... usually you wind up with a decent cross section especially those with a specific rating range.
The ranking system at low levels is flawed
I agree with this. I've been doing well on the puzzles and beat Bots with 1500 ratings. Then I play people in the 800's and they beat me most of the time. I also noticed they take a long time to make simple decisions. so wondering if they are using other apps to cheat as well.
Jan 26, 2021
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#60
llama47 wrote:
The main thing is that 1000 is not a beginner rating.
If someone learned chess for the first time, meaning, if someone didn't know how the pieces moved yesterday, then their rating would probably be below zero if we're being honest... but of course it will quickly go up.
With no other instruction, and a few months of casual playing (maybe 100 games total) they'd probably be doing quite well to be rated around 500... at least if they knew the values of the pieces (queen, rook, bishop, knight, pawn = 9, 5, 3, 3, 1) and maybe a basic checkmate (like two rooks vs king).
1000 is low, sure, but at the same time it combines some experience and some knowledge. For example the opening principles and basic tactical patterns (forks, pins, discoveries, and removing the defender). Many people also casually watch youtube videos by masters, which isn't very instructional, but it's better than nothing.
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So for example in your most recent game against @eversnaxolotl you play 3...f6 to support the pawn push e5, but moving the f pawn in the opening is something all beginners are told not to do. Mostly because it weakens the king's position, but also because it makes it harder to develop the kingside knight.
On move 12, your opponent played 12.Nxf6 which was a check and a "discovered" attack on your bishop (moving the knight uncovered the queen's attack). If I were new I'd certainly be amazed by white's idea, but in truth this is a common and basic tactical motif.
you cannot have a rating less than zero. In fact, even if you lost virtually all of your games, you would probably still have a rating of something like 200 or so. When you lose to people rated several hundred points higher you start to lost less and less rating points per loss. This happens all the time in reverse.
In daily chess, I have played opponents that were rated hundreds of points lower than me, when I win I don't even gain one single rating point.
An absolute beginner player would likely be rated around 400 or so. this is where many scholastic players start.