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Kianmehr7
Which is more powerful? Bishop or Knight? I know based on chess.com they're equal based on points of materials, but what's your opinion?
ashwinbhai7

I think knight is more powerful in making checking in adding a trap to capture another piece also. Bishop allows you to make checkmates from long distance. So according to the position of the game sacrifice your piece !!!

kaasblok12

I think knight

Fig51
Aren’t bishops more like 3.25 points?
Fr3nchToastCrunch

Beginning: Knight

End: Bishop

Bauch

Bishop is overall a better piece (valued a bit more over the knight), especially if you get the bishop pair. However....


- in the time scramble knights are usually better as there are way more tactics that they enable that are not that easy to spot as those with the bishops
- it very very often comes down to pawn structure - if you have ending with lets say 4v4p on the same side of the board the knight should be better. 
- for bishops you prefer the setup where the board is opened and there are as many pawn islands as possible - bishops can cover both side of the board, knights can't
- knights are really really bad at defending against free pawns
- knights are better than bishops in closed positions

- queen and the knight are often a good effective attacking combo (except for the instances /positions when they're not lol)


So thats about it - it is very easy, just implement these super simple principles correctly and you'll always have the advantage nervousnervousnervous Btw even grandmasters often can't precisely decide what is right in difficult situations happy


Btw in my reviews I always check if I traded B v N and opposite correctly and try to understand why.

Nilslomattsing
Fr3nchToastCrunch skrev:

Beginning: Knight

End: Bishop

Mhm

SeanTheSheep021

Double bishop is over powered, but double knight is over forker

SeanTheSheep021
Fig51 wrote:
Aren’t bishops more like 3.25 points?

Knight=bishop=3 points

drastickavish1

Bishop's in open games are better for ranged attack but knights work in a close defended game

Night_Twinshop
In closed positions the knight is a bit better,in an open position the bishop is more powerful.
cen_avei

Bishop

Dsmith42

Depends on what else is on the board. Knights can gain tempo by attacking the queen or the rooks, so the more major pieces that are on the board, the stronger the knights tend to be.

A prime example is 2 rooks + knight is generally stronger than a queen and a rook, while two rooks + bishop are somewhat weaker. The knight disrupts the coordination of major pieces more effectively than the bishop can. Take a pair of rooks out of that equation, and the bishop is usually stronger, simply because the knight is short on targets.

In the endgame, both have weaknesses. The bishop can't target half of all squares, and the bishop pair can't protect each other or converge on a key square. The knight's weakness is its short range and inability to give tempo, making the player vulnerable to zugzwang.

In short, the answer depends on the material situation, as well as the pawn structure. Both can be stronger than a rook under the right circumstances.

Playing style can also factor in. For example, Bobby Fischer's bishops were much stronger than his knights, while Tigran Petrosian's knights were much stronger than his bishops. Fischer was an open-board attacker in the classical style (bishops are good for creating pins, while knights can't pin anything), while Petrosian was a solid positional player using a hypermodern (Nimzowitsch-style) foundation, where blockade is a major theme (knights are better blockaders than bishops).

nifu134

I say bishop Cause they pin pieces and it controls more squares

BMVietnam

Bishop

JayThe10th

Well, most books and also tutors consider the bishop to be worth around 3.5, a little more than the knight, but do not be fooled! It is very situational! Here are a few examples of when the knights can be better :

1. When they are outposted between the 4-6th ranks or vice versa for the black side. In these ranks, the knights control more enemy squares and can be considered equal or even much better than the bishop determined on where it is posted. A knight outposted on the sixth rank is sometimes even considered sacking a rook for to get the knight and the out posting pawn, as the knight is just too strong there! Remember that on the 7th or 8th ranks, the knights are usually worse as they control less and less enemy squares, and same for your own back rank, like the 1st and 2nd ranks, as they do not provide much central coverage there and are most likely bad.

2. A much simpler one, knights are better in closed positions as they can jump over pieces and create threats and tactics!

Here are a few examples of when the bishops may be better:

1. Open positions tend to make the bishop a staple of power if you can position them properly. Its like a blade stabbing into the position, always ready to strike or do something whenever the enemy position falters.

2. When having the bishop pair, you control both colors of squares, removing the weakness of only seeing one color across the board. With this, the bishops are absolutely amazing and are especially good in open endgame positions as well.

I hope this offers some insight on the B vs N battle but remember there are many more reasons why one may be better than the other, like activity, tactics or piece play.

Arushproboy

I think knight are useful in openings. Bishops are useful in endgames.

whiteknight1968

Prefer the knight for several reasons:

- Can attack/defend either coloured squares

- Bishop resembles a p*nis

Skye_1983

knight I think

Fig51
SeanTheSheep yes but I heard that in some cases bishops can be slightly higher than 3