1700 to 1800 ELO , how to beat ??
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could I get some tips on the way 1700s players think and play? what should I study at this rating?
1500s and 1600s were abit similar except the 1600s had alittle less blunder and know more theory.
my main openings are caro, vienna and alapin
is it about time I change any opening or I'm good to go with these until 2000?
thanks!
they're not that different from 1600s.
You do not need to change your openings. You may expand your repertoire if you like, but it's not necessary to compete against 1700s.
1700s, like 1600s, need good understanding of their opening choice and the ideas behind it, but they do not need to know every cutting edge theory. They need a good grasp of endgame fundamentals, know when they should play for a draw or try to win during endgames.
But the most important thing, in my opinion, is still tactics. A lot of games can still be won or lost due to tactical miscalculations. Both you and your opponent are likely seeing the same tactic, but not calculating the same possibilities. One of you may still miss something in the move order, or a defensive resource that refutes the tactic. The reason why they tend to be a bit sharper in tactics than 1600s is that they tend to start thinking just as hard on how their opponents can refute certain moves in the tactic, and deduce if they can find a continuation, change the move order, or not go for the tactic at all. A 1600 may also be thinking about these, but they still spend more time thinking on how their moves would work and not a 50/50 between both sides.
So yeah, pretty much do everything you did at the 1600s but better.
As for when you do need to start changing the way you think about what's important would be around 1800 to 1900s. This is because decisive results begin to come from smaller and smaller positional mistakes. Sure, a wild tactical blunder still happens every now and then, but not enough to rely on to stay competitive against them and maintain/climb your rating. What's important now is making a long term or short term plan based on a ladder of priorities in the given position. A 1700 may see the same plans as an 1800-1900 do, especially short term ones, but the 1800-1900 will be able to explain which of the plans are better in the long run.
Archon_Fulminology wrote:
they're not that different from 1600s.
You do not need to change your openings. You may expand your repertoire if you like, but it's not necessary to compete against 1700s.
1700s, like 1600s, need good understanding of their opening choice and the ideas behind it, but they do not need to know every cutting edge theory. They need a good grasp of endgame fundamentals, know when they should play for a draw or try to win during endgames.
But the most important thing, in my opinion, is still tactics. A lot of games can still be won or lost due to tactical miscalculations. Both you and your opponent are likely seeing the same tactic, but not calculating the same possibilities. One of you may still miss something in the move order, or a defensive resource that refutes the tactic. The reason why they tend to be a bit sharper in tactics than 1600s is that they tend to start thinking just as hard on how their opponents can refute certain moves in the tactic, and deduce if they can find a continuation, change the move order, or not go for the tactic at all. A 1600 may also be thinking about these, but they still spend more time thinking on how their moves would work and not a 50/50 between both sides.
So yeah, pretty much do everything you did at the 1600s but better.
As for when you do need to start changing the way you think about what's important would be around 1800 to 1900s. This is because decisive results begin to come from smaller and smaller positional mistakes. Sure, a wild tactical blunder still happens every now and then, but not enough to rely on to stay competitive against them and maintain/climb your rating. What's important now is making a long term or short term plan based on a ladder of priorities in the given position. A 1700 may see the same plans as an 1800-1900 do, especially short term ones, but the 1800-1900 will be able to explain which of the plans are better in the long run.
I really appreciate you taking the time to write this.
i will keep on with my main openings and try to expand on them, 1700s seem to know my openings better and im unfamiliar with some of the responses i get, which is good and means i have a chance to cover my weaknesses as i climb to 1800.
ill keep on with the puzzles and begin studying endgames , based on my insights I loss most of my games during the endgame phase and the higher elo player would be even better than previous ones when it comes to that.
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Always blunder-check your moves.
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I would say there are subtle differences.
When I play my 1700 level I spend as much time preventing my opponent to get good positions as I work on my own position. Restrict the movement of their knight and bishops and find good outposts for your own knight and bishop.
When I play sub 1700 chess I spend too much time at what I want to do, and allow opponent to get into good positions which makes it much harder to win games.
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could I get some tips on the way 1700s players think and play? what should I study at this rating? 1500s and 1600s were abit similar except the 1600s had alittle less blunder and know more theory. my main openings are caro, vienna and alapin is it about time I change any opening or I'm good to go with these until 2000? thanks!
The best thing I can recommend is not to focus so much on theory, on those intermediate, low elos, tactics are what stands out the most in the games, therefore it is what you should concentrate on most currently.
I personally found less success with the vienna above like 1500, but it's playable at least to 2000 I would suggest. The Caro and Alapin are fine up to pretty much the highest level, although I did start to dislike the positions I got from the Alapin around the same time I switched away from the Vienna. Nowadays I play the open sicilian, especially because I'm very well versed in theory in a lot of different sicilians so it's just whats comfortable for me. If you still like the positions you get then dw about it, it's more important that you know some plans for your opening than that you have a gm repertoire.
I have been moving up and down, between 530 and 600 elo for sometime now, how Do I move from 600 to 900?
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Ambaniavx97 wrote:
I have been moving up and down, between 530 and 600 elo for sometime now, how Do I move from 600 to 900?
Literally just dont blunder pieces in one move and take the pieces that your opponent blunders. I know it sounds dumb but players blunder so often at that elo that it's genuinely all you have to do. Make blunder checks by double checking that you arent just simply hanging a piece after you decide on a move
