is it because i can not put my king there to checkmate?
why I have sure win but they make it a draw? wth?
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Aug 14, 2015
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This is called a Stalemate. Stalemates in chess happen when:
1.) It is a player's turn to move.
2.) That player is NOT in check.
3.) That player has no legal move.
This is similar to a checkmate, but with a checkmate the second condition above is not true (in other words, with a checkmate the player IS in check while with a stalemate, they are NOT).
Notice that the black king has nowhere to go, but is not currently in check. You just need to be aware of this possibility and always try to leave your opponent a move unless your move is checkmate.
People will sometimes even try to trick/force you to stalemate them in order to escape with a draw, so be wary if your opponents start letting you take their material while you're closing in on them. On the other hand, this can be a way for you to occasionally salvage a lost game, so be on the lookout for this for both sides.
The game was declared a draw because you stalemated your opponent. A stalemate occurs when the side to move has NO legal moves and isn't in check. If you have a huge lead in material, make sure your opponent has at least one legal move, unless you're going for checkmate.
pfren wrote:
very useful, i have learn a lot from your reply, you as a person is just like your comment, so useful, meaningful and poaitive to the world. the world need more useful human being like you. What is wrong with asking as a beginner? so you wont ask a expert when you get into trouble? you wont ever call customer services? have you read all the law? menu? handbook? or do you ask? you want to make yourself feel worthy by these useful comment but you are just an embarrassment. look at what you said, see how positive and useful you are
It's because you haven't read the rules of the game.
omnipaul wrote:
mate thanks a lot, i understand now, it is extremely useful
This is called a Stalemate. Stalemates in chess happen when:
1.) It is a player's turn to move.
2.) That player is NOT in check.
3.) That player has no legal move.
This is similar to a checkmate, but with a checkmate the second condition above is not true (in other words, with a checkmate the player IS in check while with a stalemate, they are NOT).
Notice that the black king has nowhere to go, but is not currently in check. You just need to be aware of this possibility and always try to leave your opponent a move unless your move is checkmate.
People will sometimes even try to trick/force you to stalemate them in order to escape with a draw, so be wary if your opponents start letting you take their material while you're closing in on them. On the other hand, this can be a way for you to occasionally salvage a lost game, so be on the lookout for this for both sides.
When enemy king is in check and there is no way to save it, you win by checkmate.
When enemy king is not in check, but they can't make any move (because moving anywhere will put the king under attack), then it's like its their move, but they can't move. This is called stalemate and considered a draw.
(p.s. when we used to play chess as kids, we didn't know this, and in our little games, a stalemate was considered the most insulting type of checkmate lol. I now think the most insulting type of checkmate is a smothered mate :d)
pfren wrote:
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happy reading old man
https://www.fide.com/fide/handbook.html?id=171&view=article
Happy reading sir and please excuse me for you not having read the rules. Will you?
Pikay wrote:
yea it is a strange where they dont have another rule to cover different situations
When enemy king is in check and there is no way to save it, you win by checkmate.
When enemy king is not in check, but they can't make any move (because moving anywhere will put the king under attack), then it's like its their move, but they can't move. This is called stalemate and considered a draw.
(p.s. when we used to play chess as kids, we didn't know this, and in our little games, a stalemate was considered the most insulting type of checkmate lol. I now think the most insulting type of checkmate is a smothered mate :d)
ChineseKKK hat geschrieben:
I have these 2 queen a lot and I always got draw instead of a win, I am new to chess, can someone teach me what should i do to win instead of a draw? thanks
probably its black to move. if so, its stalemate(draw) because black has no legal moves he/she could play.
to checkmate with 2 queens is not that hard.
just cut the king of to one edge of the board, either the a and h files or the 1st or 8th rank and deliver checkmate with your other queen.
to learn about mating patterns i would recommend you to watch some videos about it on youtube or grab a good beginners book.
Mr_Nosegaffeier wrote:
ChineseKKK hat geschrieben:
I have these 2 queen a lot and I always got draw instead of a win, I am new to chess, can someone teach me what should i do to win instead of a draw? thanks
probably its black to move. if so, its stalemate(draw) because black has no legal moves he/she could play.
to checkmate with 2 queens is not that hard.
just cut the king of to one edge of the board, either the a and h files or the 1st or 8th rank and deliver checkmate with your other queen.
to learn about mating patterns i would recommend you to watch some videos about it on youtube or grab a good beginners book.
yea i just start learning, watched some video about openning and there is a big improvment in the mid game, now it is time to learn some end game, thanks
@ChineseKKK
Wikipedia has an article called "Checkmate Patterns".
"Chess: 5334 Problems ..." (by Laszlo Polgar) is also very useful (though a few of the problems do have alternative , unacknowledged, solutions).
Aug 14, 2015
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omnipaul wrote:
This is called a Stalemate. Stalemates in chess happen when:
1.) It is a player's turn to move.
2.) That player is NOT in check.
3.) That player has no legal move.
This is similar to a checkmate, but with a checkmate the second condition above is not true (in other words, with a checkmate the player IS in check while with a stalemate, they are NOT).
Notice that the black king has nowhere to go, but is not currently in check. You just need to be aware of this possibility and always try to leave your opponent a move unless your move is checkmate.
People will sometimes even try to trick/force you to stalemate them in order to escape with a draw, so be wary if your opponents start letting you take their material while you're closing in on them. On the other hand, this can be a way for you to occasionally salvage a lost game, so be on the lookout for this for both sides.
Stalemate can also be an art and a possible way to draw when you have the inferior position. One such way is creating what is called a stalemate cage. I did so here. This is from a game I played back in 2008. I was White:
Aug 14, 2015
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huluvuz wrote:
What was ur last move???
In the OP, it's clearly a Queen move. One of the Queens checked the King when the King was on a1 in all likelihood, and then the other Queen came in and the stalemate occurred. I'm guessing the Queen on a3 came first, forcing Kb1, and then Qc3 stalemate.
ThrillerFan wrote:
omnipaul wrote:
This is called a Stalemate. Stalemates in chess happen when:
1.) It is a player's turn to move.
2.) That player is NOT in check.
3.) That player has no legal move.
This is similar to a checkmate, but with a checkmate the second condition above is not true (in other words, with a checkmate the player IS in check while with a stalemate, they are NOT).
Notice that the black king has nowhere to go, but is not currently in check. You just need to be aware of this possibility and always try to leave your opponent a move unless your move is checkmate.
People will sometimes even try to trick/force you to stalemate them in order to escape with a draw, so be wary if your opponents start letting you take their material while you're closing in on them. On the other hand, this can be a way for you to occasionally salvage a lost game, so be on the lookout for this for both sides.
Stalemate can also be an art and a possible way to draw when you have the inferior position. One such way is creating what is called a stalemate cage. I did so here. This is from a game I played back in 2008. I was White:
ThrillerFan, that was a very nice game. You did a nice job of sacrificing your rook, which was the only piece which could move, allowing you to get a well-earned draw. That reminded me of the famous game between Evans and Reshevsky!
Aug 14, 2015
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ThrillerFan wrote:
huluvuz wrote:
What was ur last move???
In the OP, it's clearly a Queen move. One of the Queens checked the King when the King was on a1 in all likelihood, and then the other Queen came in and the stalemate occurred. I'm guessing the Queen on a3 came first, forcing Kb1, and then Qc3 stalemate.
Thanks for the reply man...I had the same thought (that it has to be a queen move)...But what bothers me is, why he placed his queen on that square...I think black king wasnt alone...there has to be a black piece or a pawn that op captured to secure a win and as a result of this got stalemated...
ChessFan134 wrote:
The game was declared a draw because you stalemated your opponent. A stalemate occurs when the side to move has NO legal moves and isn't in check. If you have a huge lead in material, make sure your opponent has at least one legal move, unless you're going for checkmate.
this is single handedly the dumbest rule in the world. why give the win to someone who clearly lost.
ASimpleHusk wrote:
ChessFan134 wrote:
The game was declared a draw because you stalemated your opponent. A stalemate occurs when the side to move has NO legal moves and isn't in check. If you have a huge lead in material, make sure your opponent has at least one legal move, unless you're going for checkmate.
this is single handedly the dumbest rule in the world. why give the win to someone who clearly lost.
What win have they been given? And they haven’t lost because it’s a draw by stalemate.
And you felt the need to necro a 9 year old thread to wrongly criticise a correct post.
I have these 2 queen a lot and I always got draw instead of a win, I am new to chess, can someone teach me what should i do to win instead of a draw? thanks