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There's not really anything to say that hasn't already been said, so just to rehash: I agree that it's the rules that you have 3 days to play, and any player has the right to take as long as they want in that time. But going on vacation while playing a game is pretty bad, perhaps the moderators could block going on vacation while there are games in progress?
Eric, I beleav you can chaindg the site?
Some sits have programs fore theas positions, so you fead in the beleavd oponents move and then the move your going to do, so that you make the move directly, returning emeadiatly to your oponants move, to spead upp the game wen your in a good position and know wat to do (and wat your oponent will do)
Some sits have programs fore theas positions, so you fead in the beleavd oponents move and then the move your going to do, so that you make the move directly, returning emeadiatly to your oponants move, to spead upp the game wen your in a good position and know wat to do (and wat your oponent will do)
batgirl, great idea! On FICS, several members have the ability to adjudicate games where one player refuses to continue. Here are their rules:
You may request an adjudication when the following requirements have been met.
1. The game must be MORE THAN a week old.
2. You have contacted your opponent several times about continuing.
3. You have 4 or fewer games already pending.
4. One of the following situations applies.
o Your opponent does not reply to your messages, even though they have
logged on several times. Use "log <opponent>" to check this.
o Your opponent has not logged on in several months.
o Your opponent refuses to continue. Use "resume" to try to continue the
game with an open opponent.
All of these conditions must be met.
EXEMPTIONS
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The seven day waiting period may be waived in the following circumstances.
o You have a forced win and can provide the analysis to back it up. Note,
and this is important, you must show the moves out to checkmate. Simply
being up a queen and a rook is not a forced win.
o If your opponent immediately logs back on after disconnection and refuses
to "resume", you may request adjudication. However, if you are already
involved in another game, your opponent is under no obligation to wait for
you, so the seven day period still applies.
Creg wrote:
Let's not get into any fights here, the point of this thread is dealing with people who do not choose to finish games. At present Chess.com is a free site, so there is little one can do except block the user. This is an option within your account settings.
Goodness me! Hasn't this one stirred up some interest. It's certainly a good index of the amount of feeling there is about opponents who slow down when they achieve a lost position. Personally, I'd rather resign the game when it gets to that stage and get on with something else -- but we're all different.
Creg's comment is interesting. I wasn't aware that other players can be blocked. It's listed under Privacy Settings and says, "Blocked members will be unable to post on your Notes section or send you Messages." That doesn't say anything about blocking them from playing by, say, picking up your open challenge. I wonder if that option could also be provided?
Of course, there's always the option to abort if your challenge is picked up by an opponent with an unpalatable record.
Rauros wrote: There's not really anything to say that hasn't already been said, so just to rehash: I agree that it's the rules that you have 3 days to play, and any player has the right to take as long as they want in that time. But going on vacation while playing a game is pretty bad, perhaps the moderators could block going on vacation while there are games in progress?
I've always wondered why a holiday has been pre-booked when a player is losing, but never when they're winning. Strange.
Yes that is frustrating Carrie, but what this site is designed for, long-term games, should keep you busy until the winning opportunities arrive. Just occupy your time with other games and don't worry about that one.
There was another thread about vacation abuse, and as I said there, requiring minimum vacation times and/or minimum times between vacations would easily prevent any abuse. Just make it so that you can't come back from vacation within a day of starting it, and/or you can't go on vacation within a day of returning from a vacation. This would stop this type of silly abuse.
--Fromper
I just signed up here, but I have been playing postal for a long time on GameKnot, and am assuming that gains/losses are calculated based on ratings at the conclusion of the game here as well. That said, when an opponent stalling screws me out of a few rating points that SERIOUSLY pisses me off, even more than the wait!
I think to prevent the vacation abuse you need to make them unable to take vacation again for an amount of time EQUAL to the vacation that they just took. Otherwise they could take a 30 day vacation, move one time, than take 30 days again!
Carrie wrote:
I have had a number of opponents who have not timed out but when they are losing they wait untill their time is almost run out before making anohter move this drags a totally lost game out some times for weeks. It seems to be the worst possible manners.
I totally agree with you Carrie, but some people are poor sports and they can't be dealt with sometimes. There should be something done, but how would some one prove that they are dragging a game out on purpose (maybe their schedule doesn't allow for them to move that often) ?
Seeing as how we are all playing multiple games(i assume), switch your focus to your other games if someone is stalling. as mentioned above, your opponent may be 1. hoping to get a stalemate, or 2. is still learning and would like to see how you can get a forced mate, or 3.is being irresponsible and rude. since it is likely you will meet other rude and irresponsible people in your daily life, treat this the same way and avoid in future(block interaction).
likesforests wrote:
"well to be fair, some people are going for a stalemate... and somehow think they can get one." -- markwahlberg
True, and what constitutes drawing chances depends on the ratings of both players. If one of us were <=1000 USCF, I would understand playing on in a King and Queen vs King ending, hoping for stalemate. But we were both a bit higher-rated than that, so playing to mate--at 1min/move--was offensive. I didn't yell, and I didn't swear, but I did decline a post-game analysis and I will never choose to play that individual again.
be careful likesforests you don't want to seem like a poor winner. After all any person you play could become a strong player and mention you in the book they write, and you would forever be known as a poor winner.
"Patience is a virtue"
The person's still going to lose in these cases, regardless how long they try to delay it. Unlike FICS, this has a set amount of time for which they have to make a move.....
Just wait it out, or play 1/2/3 day games.
As for mate in 6 or whatever, it could easily be taken as obnoxious online, so be careful as to how you express yourself.
"be careful likesforests you don't want to seem like a poor winner"
I lose too often to be known as a poor winner. 
There is nothing you can do about someone waiting out their time to move, However before you accept a person challenge look into their time/move to determined if you want to play them. if that person time is 30hr/ move you might want to reconsider playing that person.
yes its a bit frustrating, but i think opponents who delay moving in a losing game have the right to do it if they want to.
if you are winning the game, WHAT'S THE POINT of getting upset if you know you'll eventually win the game??? just wondrin...
just chill... it's just a game.
Here's the thing people who play chess are like anyone else .Some are decent and some are not . Personally I refuse to resign , however if the game is almost over and I'm sure I will lose I allow my opponent to finish the game . Now here is something else people who only make one move and then log off. Then they don't make another move for 3 days. I know we have busy lives and have other things to do, other than play chess all day but, can we at least make a few moves before logging out ? Please .
justin16 wrote: ... can we at least make a few moves before logging out ? Please .
No.
I have an opponent right now who is in dire straits. They can not possible win as they have no material but I can understand playing for a stalemate. I've flubbed up enough 'automatic' wins to justify someone playing to last move when they play me. Also, not all players can recognize a book draw or a forced mate. Playing on in such circumstances might be the only chance they have to see how to win in such a position.
On the other hand I won a lost game because my opponent timed out. Later I found out that opponent has a LOT of time outs. Sometimes the real world gets in the way of playing chess without advanced notice so no vacation can be set.
On the third hand, patience is part of chess.
On the foot (since I'm out of hands), I don't have much patience that's why I usually play 20 boards at a time. ^_^
Carrie wrote:
In one game I presently have going it is mate next move and my opponent went on holidays rather than resign.
GRRRR! 
There was I feeling all philosophical about this subject. Your opponent has n-days to play each move; that's agreed and we all have that privilege. But then you get some ill-mannered, thoughtless clown who pushes things to the limit and my inner pacificist ducks for cover and my warrior comes out.
One of my present opponents was playing regularly until he found his game irretrievably lost (he's a rook down with no counterplay) and began to take his full three days to move -- and I mean three whole days, right down to the last hour. Fair enough. If that's how he plays it's nothing he's not entitled to do and I can live with that.
Then, today, he went on vacation with only 44 seconds left on the clock.
Fair dinkum! This guy comes across as a genuine drongo. (You may not know the word if you've never been to Oz but trust me, it's less than complimentary.)
I think there are times when adjudication may well be appropriate.
A final (I hope) update on my September 18 post.
My 44-second man arrived back from vacation with less than 90 minutes to spare and made a move. He managed two more in the ensuing week (we're talking blitz here!) and has now commenced forfeiting his games. Mine was the fourth to expire.
Thank goodness most people do the right thing.