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Well, it s really unpleasant, i agree with you.but i think it s hard to do anything against them
I don't know. If they want to be sore losers, so be it. I'm personally playing a game at the moment where I usually put off making a move for a day or two, just because I want to make sure my mind is at it's best before I chose a move.
The thing to remember is, you're playing multiple games (I assume), so eventually you'll win these games anyways, and will have other games to play until then.
I am facing a similar situation. I had a force mate in 6 (well now in 4) moves. It is a force mate irrespecitve of what my opponents moves now. Its pretty evident from the board but still I told all 4 moves to my opponent. But my opponent is not resigning, instead he is making every move after 4 days are over and only when he is running out of time. (its a 5 days/move game). This will drag the lost game for almost more than a month. I think it is against the sporting spirit...but what can we do?
I'm not going to argue that the person who went on vaction didn't do it to avoid checkmate, but did you consider that some of your other opponents may simply be too busy to move in a smaller amount of time? I do agree, however, that there should be a blocking feature for people who obviously are avoiding the game (vacationing to delay.)
I wish I had thought of that tactic for my 'alternative strategies' post...
I agree it's frustrating when that happens, but since you're not actually sitting at a table waiting and you will get eventually get the win, just go with it otherwise you'll probably just get frustrated and rush a move... which is your opponents only hope at that point.
Guys and girls, it is useless complaining about the rules of the match, if you enter into a 1 move per 3 or 5 day game, your opponent has the right to make full use of the time, whatever his motives might be. That's the rules of the game. It might be irritating but the eventual win should be rewarding enough.
I play a lot of games on MSN Zone, the 30 minutes per side format is really very nice. Hopefully Erik and co can sometime introduce the same format on this site. MSN Zone have a "do not match" function and helps alot to keep undesired opponents at bay.
VampireLestrat wrote: Calling your opponent F@cking motherf@cker sure helps you relieve the pressure though...
yes, but will it help you feel better when you are then banned for doing that? :)
Carrie wrote: I have had a number of opponents who have not timed out but when they are losing they wait untill their time is almost run out before making anohter move this drags a totally lost game out some times for weeks. It seems to be the worst possible manners. Some thing like an avoid list.
Your safest bet is to play unrated against unproven opponents who haven't played at least 20 or 30 games and look at their history to see if they have massive time outs.
That's what we do on Net-Chess.Com we wait 35 games for new Players to prove themselves reliable before we'll take them seriously and put our points on the line against them.
It is indeed a very frustrating situation. I would just recommend concentrating on your other games, realize you'll get the victory eventually, and perhaps don't play the opponent that is annoying you again.
crazyknight -- would you feel good about it if someone (may better than you or not) tells you that he has a forced win in 6 and that you should resign? It sounds somewhat snide to tell your opponent that you will win. Why make it harder, the guy is losing and will lose if you have a clear win, telling him so may not make him resign, rather it might actually encourage that behavior if he's petty or upset.
Also it's not like in tournaments where people might resign to give themselves a rest before the next round in a lost position, here you can play multiple games, so it doesn't seem logical to complain about the people who elect to use all their time, just go to the next game or wait (we chessplayers need to cultivate that skill all the more nowadays.)
Let's not get into any fights here, the point of this thread is dealing with people who do not choose to finish games. At present Chess.com is a free site, so there is little one can do except block the user. This is an option within your account settings.
It's just like real life when you come across a rude person. You simply avoid them in the future. The game will finish in time one way or the other, so your best bet is to continue playing other games. It's rather unlimited here so continue to enjoy the site, and do not allow others to ruin it for you.
As for dealing with these situations in the future, a suggestion may be brought to Erik et. al. where a member may submit the game for arbitration to be ruled a win, or draw. This is done at other on-line chess sites when players refuse to continue games that were interrupted due to disconnect. Clearly an idea for the future, but something to chew on for now.
King_William wrote:
Guys and girls, it is useless complaining about the rules of the match, if you enter into a 1 move per 3 or 5 day game, your opponent has the right to make full use of the time, whatever his motives might be. That's the rules of the game. It might be irritating but the eventual win should be rewarding enough.
I completely agree with King William, you have no right to demand they move before their time is nearly up. If it is in their time they can do as they please.
"In one game I presently have going it is mate next move and my opponent went on holidays rather than resign."
That seems abusive. Why don't you send Eric a note with the details?
Continuing to slowly plod on when there are no drawing chances is another matter. It's poor sportsmanship, but not abuse--players have a right to play to checkmate and to use all the time on their clocks. Just don't play them in the future.
A few months ago a player forced me to prove I could mate with King & Queen vs King and he took one minute per move. Argh!!!!!!!!! That and "wood-pushers" are why I settled on 2'+12" blitz as my favorite online time control.
well to be fair, some people are going for a stalemate... and somehow think they can get one.
Lord-Svenstikov wrote: King_William wrote:
Guys and girls, it is useless complaining about the rules of the match, if you enter into a 1 move per 3 or 5 day game, your opponent has the right to make full use of the time, whatever his motives might be. That's the rules of the game. It might be irritating but the eventual win should be rewarding enough.
I completely agree with King William, you have no right to demand they move before their time is nearly up. If it is in their time they can do as they please.
I agree as well. It is frustrating to just wait (especially) when you know that you have a sure win. I usually experience this when I get the upper hand against an opponent with a higher rating and an ego just a big. LOL As a strategy, some players will stop playing their losing games and divert their attention to their winning games so as to inflate their ratings prior to suffering any points lost in their losing games.
Just play other games until some movement (one way or another) is made.
~The Doctor
"well to be fair, some people are going for a stalemate... and somehow think they can get one." -- markwahlberg
True, and what constitutes drawing chances depends on the ratings of both players. If one of us were <=1000 USCF, I would understand playing on in a King and Queen vs King ending, hoping for stalemate. But we were both a bit higher-rated than that, so playing to mate--at 1min/move--was offensive. I didn't yell, and I didn't swear, but I did decline a post-game analysis and I will never choose to play that individual again.
It is annoying, but remember when Kramnik was winning against deep Fritz last year and then got mated in one. Even the best can mess up big time.
"I am facing a similar situation. I had a force mate in 6
I see no reason (barring any technical limitations) why a review board couldn't be set up and appealed to in cases where a mate (or for that matter any desired conclusion, such as a draw by three-fold repetition) can be demonstrated by force, so that such an ending might be imposed and the game terminated.
That would reduce at least some of the possible abuses and childish behaviors.
I have had a number of opponents who have not timed out but when they are losing they wait untill their time is almost run out before making anohter move this drags a totally lost game out some times for weeks. It seems to be the worst possible manners.
In one game I presently have going it is mate next move and my opponent went on holidays rather than resign.
What are your opinions on people who do this and is it possible to block them from ever playing you again so that if you put out an open seek then they can not accept.
Some thing like an avoid list.