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This is really not necessary,I understand you Dr.Brock that you are disturbed but you have DISABLE CHAT,IGNORE LIST.You can be sure that you are not first but this is not necessary for discussion.
ok. But when I disable chat I WAS already insulted (otherwise I wouldn't do it). The only solution is to punish such guys.
Why are there so many people on this site who complain, complain, complain.
Instead of asking for a babysitter, just use the "disable chat" function.
1) I did not provoke my opponent .
2) I complain for sober chess, not since I am insulted.
I told you, I do not play this guy again, but he will, I am sure, harass other players!!!
Once again, the only solution is to punish those guys, as it is absolutely common in real chess.
It is not question how many players that person will insult afther you,the question is how far chess.com will leave that person.
Ok. I would like to close the topic. I said my opinion. That's it.
trash talk is common in chess, especially in blitz, its a good psychological ploy, and u obviously fell for it. Bad manners is no excuse, i believe most of us just want to play chess.
If you have something nice to say, then say it.
But if you have something mean to say, then don't say it at all!
It is not cool!
mandelshtam wrote:
SUDDENLY he told me (I had said nothing before!!!), that I should not make bad moves in the hope that my opponent would play even worse.
Sorry but i don't find that being insulting, and well some of the most brilliant players were known for not play actually the most sound moves (i.e. Tal). And if in the end what we look doing such daring moves it's actually that hope that the opponent chose the wrong answer i believe that what your opponent said was actually true; don't you think?
Now if at that specific moment you actually felt insulted it make me think that the reason might be because your opponent pointed something true when you know or think you are a stronger player than him and that hurt your ego, in consequence you felt attacked and felt complained to attack back saying
"mandelshtam: you are very arrogant, and you are not a good player. I am better. i have elo FIDE 2265."
am i wrong? so actually you were the one that were bad mannered saying that your opponent was a bad player "just because him pointed something true that made you feel uncomfortable".
And even worst knowing that even if you submit your complain the moderators will not ban that person simply because him did nothing wrong you try to calm your hurt ego making a forum thread to inflame the name of other player.
And to finish this comment let me tell you that even when I'm young live have teach me that we can always learn something from anyone and that include people with less experience even in an area you are quite experienced.
-Azoth.
Maybe you should post the chat log here too so that people actually could decide for themselves. Every single person whom I've played with in this server knows that I'm a generally nice person. The fact I think is that you got a bit grumpy because of losing, and that grumpiness made you hostile. I could of course just say that I was sorry, but I really wasn't too sorry for anything I said to you.
And just to all of you who has been reading and replying to this topic, the thing I said to "provoke" him was "You shouldn't make bad moves, hoping for your opponent to make worse ones." after he offered me a rook that when accepted lead to a mate or really close to one. After however not taking the rook and making the ! move, I would have a severe advantage.
After that, he started bragging about his FIDE rating, and how he was a "good" player, while I was a "bad" one. That was the reason I called him arrogant. And well, it did kind of make me mad that he had called me a bad player, so I did everything I could to rub my win in. Sure, it was a bit immature of me, but still, it felt damn good. After that, still holding a grudge against him for calling me a bad player, I told him that I had won 2 out of our 2 played games, and that he only could dream of a rematch, since I felt that he was a rude person and I really wanted to torment him.
Then he challenges me to a rematch, which I decline. He sends me two messages, one inwhich he tries justifying that it was really his win because I don't accept the rematch, and another where he threatens me to have a rematch with him, saying that he'll post a topic like this if I don't accept his challenge within 2 days.
To the starter of the topic;
I play chess because it's fun. I won't play chess when it isn't fun. It isn't fun playing chess with you. I won't play chess with you.
(I hope it wasn't too hard to understand...)
~Amanda
I say kick em in the boo boo and go on with your life.Dont cry about it.Just realize that there are bungholes everywhere that you go and that this is one of them!If she is a girl ,then offer to take her out to hooters for some buffalo wings and beer.After you get her drunk ,give her a wedgee and she will never want to play you again!But seriously, just overlook this person and my silly out of the blue comments and keep on playing chess.
Nevermind, here's the chatlog. And yes, I can be a coldhearted b**** when I'm provoked.Here's what's been written in that chat.:
Metris: Yay! I get to play grünfeld =)
Metris: You know, you shouldn't make bad moves, assuming your opponent makes moves that are even worse...
Metris: If we now play the variation I think we'll play, I'll have a decisive advantage.
mandelshtam: you are very arrogant, and you are not a good player. I am better. i have elo FIDE 2265.
mandelshtam: I invented Bg5, and it is agood variation, although it is not in the books.
Metris: The 2200+ Fide rating really doesn't show in this match...
Metris: And I never said anything about Bg5 being a bad move. It's playable, but it "activates" the bishop to a way too hostile square way too early.
Metris: Being a 2200+ player, you should be well aware of the fact that premature hostileness rarely works against good counterplay. To be honest, I think you're the arrogant one.
mandelshtam: thx for your empty lectures. You will from now on lose one game after another against me. AND THEN SHUT UP.
Metris: As if I'll ever play you again. After this one, I'll have won two out of two games we've played. And you seem to be quite rude, so give me one good reason why I should give you the pleasure of defeating me rather than the despair that awaits you when I wi
Metris: n?
mandelshtam: YOU are rude. I told you my honest opinion about you. I kept quite all the game, UNTIL YOU STARTED YOUR ARROGANT EMPTY LECTURE!!!
Metris: Still, I'm winning and you're losing. Sucks, huh?
Hey Metris, it's cool you posted. You have the right to defend yourself of accusations. I don't think you're a cold hearted b****, I think what we're witnessing here is half-misunderstanding, half standard chess escalation. Hell, the rare times it's happened that I've gotten into a mudflinging contest I've enjoyed the game more as a result (when I win of course), because I'm more invested in it.
I think we should just chalk this up to "everynow and then, tempers can run high" with competitive games like chess. Many people would'nt have minded your opening comment (the Grunfeld thing clearly showed that you were in a light disposition and happy to talk about the game), and sure, he percieved your next comments as threatening, oh well.
It's dumb that he started this thread in the first place (hell, that chat transcript isn't half as bad as some of the ones I'm sure take place) and it's dumb that he harrassed you over a rematch. Just goes to show that you need both sides of a story before you can judge.
ps. All of this makes your victory that much sweeter. Good job Metris.
