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Chess variant that allows passing?

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checkmateibeatu
I know a lot of people would hate this, as zugzwang is a very cool part of the game (which it is), but the game would become interesting. Neither player could rely on mating with a queen and king, for example. Instead, they would have to try as hard as possible earlier in the game to play aggressively for checkmate.
NimzoRoy

I hate it already

pompom

King and queen can be won with passing (or at least I'm pretty sure you can).

However, king and ROOK cannot be won, as well mates harder than that (2 bishops, bishop and knight, king and pawn, queen vs. rook, etc.)

 

By the way, if both players keep skipping does that count as a draw?

checkmateibeatu
Yes, because no one would make any progress.
HGMuller

I thought KBBK could also be won without zugzwang.

checkmateibeatu

I don't think so.

pompom

King and two bishops cannot be won without zugzwang.  I think...

Also, I don't really like this variant as it takes away two great things about chess: zugzwang and stalemate.

checkmateibeatu
pompom wrote:

King and two bishops cannot be won without zugzwang.  I think...

Also, I don't really like this variant as it takes away two great things about chess: zugzwang and stalemate.


The side stalemated could decide not to pass, thus being stalemated.  Anyway, even if he was forced to pass, this position would be a dead draw.

pompom

I don't think that makes sense.  If you're in stalemete, you should be forced to pass.

checkmateibeatu
Passing would never be FORCED in this variant, just an option (Of course, if you were in check you would have to do something about it.)