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art_student_faker

Hello Chess.com, 

 

I am an art student looking to stage a replica of the match between Duchamp and Cage but can't seem to find any record of the game! Does anyone know if its availible on the interweb or any other scource for that matter?

Thank you.

DrSpudnik

There was recently a book published of the games & art of Marcel Duchamp. Did you check that?

http://www.amazon.com/Marcel-Duchamp-Francis-M-Naumann/dp/0980055628/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1298291837&sr=1-1

DrSpudnik

I just imagine though, that after 3 hours of staring at the board and not making a move, Cage got up and declared what a beautiful game it was.

art_student_faker
DrSpudnik wrote:

I just imagine though, that after 3 hours of staring at the board and not making a move, Cage got up and declared what a beautiful game it was.


I can just imagine that happening too!

I know of that book, but doubt it will be listed in there, from what I know It’s more about the relationship that chess and art have for Duchamp. Either way Naumann has admitted not to be much of a chess player, his excuse for not reading Opposition and Sister Squares are Reconciled – that being said he’s probably better than me!

Obscures

I don't know that there was "a match," except for the musical performance "Reunion" (see: http://fluxlist.blogspot.com/2011/12/cage-vs-duchamp-toronto-musical-chess.html). Cage credited Duchamp with teaching him how to play chess, but I have never seen a record of any of their games.  In "Conversing with Cage" (p. 12), he makes the comment, "I was using chess as a pretext to be with him [Duchamp]. I didn't learn, unfortunately, while he was alive to play well."

By the way: Cage had a curious way of storing his chess pieces.  Instead of arranging them back into the opening array after a game, he would put all the pieces back on the board and then push them together into a bunch in the middle, then move the bunch a little off-center.  It was a small gesture that seemed like a comment about how he could enjoy the deeply hierarchical world of chess while not denying the essential randomness of the world.

redmenace07

I'm also curious about this specific game. This article includes the transcript of the first sixteen moves of a game. I don't know if it is the game in question. That games begins this way:

It looks like black is getting the better of it to me.

AutisticCath

Sorry, I couldn't resist making fun of their names.

the-original-apb

redmenace07 - Sadly it is not the game in question. Identities are confirmed at ?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFile%3AChessOldDN.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ca39c4698a40e4a6bf65e08dcb19f8778%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638580545930997826%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=M7yaYXtMUNGm1ogPVE30XPbNuwTQmBPQgVe6BfQKreY%3D&reserved=0