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What do you think is a fair amount for a 2100 to charge ~1400s for lessons?

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zezpwn44

Since I was in high school, I've given lessons to beginners for $10 an hour, but after seeing other rates of coaches, I realize that this is very, vew low, even for someone of my level. Now that I'm an adult, and an expert (nearly 2100) and have parents of actually decent players (in the 1400 range) asking me for lessons, what do you think a fair amount would be? I was thinking $20 or $25 an hour...is that too much for a non-master to charge?

EricFleet

I pay $30/hr for an IM and would not pay $20 for someone who is not a master. But ultimately, it comes down to what folks are willing to pay...

EricFleet
harryz wrote:

Your amount is fine, maybe even generous. Try $30

I'm paying that for an IM with FIDE certification as a trainer.

dashkee94

There was a player in upstate NY who didn't even have a 2000 USCF OTB rating who was charging, and getting, $50 an hour.  Myself, I'm a little under 2000 now (USCF 1970), but I charge $20 per lesson--even if it goes over an hour in time.  Some lessons can't be covered in an hour.  But that's just me.

chess2Knights

I charge $25 an hour.

sisu
EricFleet wrote:
harryz wrote:

Your amount is fine, maybe even generous. Try $30

I'm paying that for an IM with FIDE certification as a trainer.

Are they doing a good job? Smile

dashkee94 wrote:

Some lessons can't be covered in an hour.  But that's just me.

So true! I'm often going over an hour with some of my favourite students Smile

LongIslandMark wrote:

Another of the self-employed rules-of-thumb is "always charge enough that you are happy to do the job well"

That's the most important thing.

EricFleet
sisu wrote:
EricFleet wrote:
harryz wrote:

Your amount is fine, maybe even generous. Try $30

I'm paying that for an IM with FIDE certification as a trainer.

Are they doing a good job?

 

I've jumped from Class C to Class A over the past year, and 162 points in my past three tournaments...

sisu
EricFleet wrote:

I've jumped from Class C to Class A over the past year, and 162 points in my past three tournaments...

Take note everyone, coaches accelerate your abilities!

chess2Knights

The point here is you do not need a GM to teach a class D or E player and pay $100-$200 per hour. A GM is needed to teach a Master. Anyone who is much better than the person they are teaching will do. That does not mean they will be a good or bad teacher. It just means they are qualified by difference in ability.

Elubas

One could say that a strong but untitled player might give a student some immature habits that titled players may not have, but overall I agree.

Jimmykay

Multipy by 2000 hours to get an annual salary. If someone is charging $20/hour, that is someone willing to be happy to earn $40,000/year.

Or according to LongIslandMarks probably more accurate assessment, $20,000/year.

Are you going to pay for chess lessons for someone who qualifies for welfare? Are they really worth it?

chess2Knights

Are you trying to say a poor person can not play good chess? lol

Jimmykay
LongIslandMark wrote:
Jimmykay wrote:

Multipy by 2000 hours to get an annual salary. If someone is charging $20/hour, that is someone willing to be happy to earn $40,000/year.

Are you going to pay for chess lessons for someone who qualifies for welfare? Are they really worth it?

$40K /year isn't welfare, and there may be two wage earners in the family (it would be more than decent extra income or semi-retired/retired income)

Actually, it is. look it up. For a family with two kids with one breadwinner earning $20/hour easily is considered  a welfare family in the U.S. If there are two earning $20/hour, they are still EASILY qualifying for Obamacare and receiving all kinds of federal subsidies, if they have children.

chess2Knights

Good point LongislandMark and also good advice in your original post. 

Jimmykay

LongIslandMark is correct in his basic thinking but 2000 hours/year is a full time job, not 1000 hours.

Jimmykay
EricFleet wrote:

I pay $30/hr for an IM and would not pay $20 for someone who is not a master. But ultimately, it comes down to what folks are willing to pay...

that is a $60K/year salary, or $30,000/year according to LongIslandMark.

Jimmykay
chess2Knights wrote:

I charge $25 an hour.

$25K/year with LongIslandMark's numbers.

Jimmykay

A decent high school math tutor in the NY metroplitan area charges at least $125/hour.

johnmusacha
Jimmykay wrote:

A decent high school math tutor in the NY metroplitan area charges at least $125/hour.

So is that what you have to pay to get tutored for your ninth attempt at getting your GED?

Jimmykay
johnmusacha wrote:
Jimmykay wrote:

A decent high school math tutor in the NY metroplitan area charges at least $125/hour.

So is that what you have to pay to get tutored for your ninth attempt at getting your GED?

if you really suck at math, I guess so!