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Why is the polish opening so good yet never played?

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SamuelAjedrez95
Imdumbashelllol wrote:

I've not studied the Najdorf, what kind of tactical opportunities even are there?

In this Bc4 Fischer-Sozin Attack line, the Bxe6 sacrifice is a common idea which you always have to look out for. White can win 3 pawns for the piece and chase the king into the centre of the board. This is if black gets careless about e6.

Also when Qf3 is played after b5, e5 is a threat.

There is also a crazy queen sac line.

White will be down a queen for 2 minors but there are tactical threats along the diagonal on the e6 square towards the king.

Jgcool1924

The Polish ( Orangutan ) Opening is good if you know what you are doing. A lot of people try the Polish, have no idea what to do, then they lose and say the polish is bad. If you know what doing though, you can get a good game.

 
 
MaetsNori

I'd say there's nothing objectively wrong with 1.b4 - it's probably a draw with best play from both sides (like so many openings out there).

And if Black isn't ready for it, the Polish can be an unsettling surprise weapon that could cause Black to stumble into an awkward or worse position.

But it's also narrow in its scope. White's plans are known on move 1. This makes it easier for White to prepare it as a pet opening, yes ... though it also makes it easier for Black to prepare a straightforward defense.

If Black is experienced to any decent degree, he should already have a set response to the Polish in his repertoire.

Compare this to, say, 1.c4 (for example) - and Black's job of preparing a straightforward defense is more difficult, as the English opening can turn in many different directions ...

Imdumbashelllol

I completely agree

rooksb4

I want to play this Opening, but I don't know how.

Sea_TurtIe

its not played because of this

you have given black equality/ a better position and your bishop is misplaced and you are underdeveloped

Sea_TurtIe

and as white you are supposed to fight for a win, thats why the london is garbo and stuff like the ruy lopez, open sicilian, catalan, queens gambit are so good

Sea_TurtIe

and as black you are supposed to give white a hard time by staying on him, making sure he does not give up the advantage he starts with and waits for white to go wrong, thats why you should scrap the caro and other passive openings, CHALLENGE WHITE

spacecatchess2007

idk, I have never seen the polish opening in one of my games before

Sea_TurtIe

¨The turning point in my career came with the realization that black should play to win instead of just steering for equality¨

-Bobby Fischer

Imdumbashelllol

Here is an example of one of the many polish opening traps

Imdumbashelllol

Though black has an advantage, most games are equalized by move 7 into highly tricky positional games. Magnus has pointed out in one of his recent videos that the engine evaluation doesn't matter but the players do. I am no low elo player either, I have beaten 100s of people from 1400-1700 with the polish and it's tricky ideas.

Sea_TurtIe

your last sentence was uncalled for

Imdumbashelllol

Sorry, didn't mean to sound aggressive.

ThrillerFan

I played the following 2 games yesterday over the board, both of them wins for White in the Polish (lost my only game as Black, but it wasn't a Polish, so not relevant).

The second one could be a tactics puzzle in a book after Black's 30th move.

darkunorthodox88
ThrillerFan wrote:

I played the following 2 games yesterday over the board, both of them wins for White in the Polish (lost my only game as Black, but it wasn't a Polish, so not relevant).

The second one could be a tactics puzzle in a book after Black's 30th move.

what event is this? is it otb or online with otb time controls?

ThrillerFan
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:

I played the following 2 games yesterday over the board, both of them wins for White in the Polish (lost my only game as Black, but it wasn't a Polish, so not relevant).

The second one could be a tactics puzzle in a book after Black's 30th move.

what event is this? is it otb or online with otb time controls?

Notice the "Location" is indicated. Pineville, North Carolina. This was over the board. G/85, Inc/5.

Also, event is indicated - top of each board, Reverse Angle 120 - A monthly 3-round OTB event just outside Charlotte.

Imdumbashelllol
ThrillerFan wrote:

I played the following 2 games yesterday over the board, both of them wins for White in the Polish (lost my only game as Black, but it wasn't a Polish, so not relevant).

The second one could be a tactics puzzle in a book after Black's 30th move.

These are very amazing games, you play the polish in the same way i do.

ThrillerFan
Imdumbashelllol wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:

I played the following 2 games yesterday over the board, both of them wins for White in the Polish (lost my only game as Black, but it wasn't a Polish, so not relevant).

The second one could be a tactics puzzle in a book after Black's 30th move.

These are very amazing games, you play the polish in the same way i do.

Well, I wouldn't call the first one amazing. More of a positional crush as Black had no idea what he was doing, trying to attack the queenside initially and then voluntarily closing the position with a space disadvantage and no pieces traded off.

The second is by far the more interesting one. Only real improvement for White seems to be 26.Rff2, which I am surprised I missed, but once he took the pawn on e7 instead of advancing g5, I knew I had to be winning, and spent 13 minutes on the Rook check, initially trying to make 34.Rf6+ or 34.Qf6+ work until I realized the 34.Qh3+ idea. Backwards moves are often the hardest to find.

Ridmas

I know people who play it abd Holly bot days that the polish opening is common amongst elves