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soothsayer8

Which opening move do you guys prefer playing as white? e4 or d4?

I open with d4 at least 75% of the time. The way I see it, with e4, the King sends his pawn out, unprotected, and then runs to hide in the corner as soon as he can and sends his minor pieces to back the pawn up (quite typical of kings.) With d4, the Queen backs her pawn up as it moves forward, so as to say, "Hey, Black, we're taking this center space. If you touch that pawn, you're going to have a problem." Plus I prefer closed positional play over open tactical play =)

Cutebold

1.e4, as I enjoy open, fighting positions, and know the theory quite well in comparison to 1.d4. Definitely like the openings a bit more.

soothsayer8

There definitely seem to be a lot more openings and variations associated with Kings pawn games, that's why I start off 1. e4 on occasion too, it also helps to be familiar with all types of openings, for sure.

StrategicusRex

1. d4 all the way!  I'm a positional player, so I love the Queen's Pawn.

Elubas

I'm with weaponking. Not too long ago I realized I was in love with almost every queen pawn opening.

Vaaelenko

I prefer D4 pawn

it's gives me a huge attacking on the queen side  :)

CPawn

1.C4!

rrrttt
CPawn wrote:

1.C4!


 I'm so with you!

Elubas

Guys, you only have two options...

Tnk64ChessCourse
soothsayer8 wrote:

Which opening move do you guys prefer playing as white? e4 or d4?

I open with d4 at least 75% of the time. The way I see it, with e4, the King sends his pawn out, unprotected, and then runs to hide in the corner as soon as he can and sends his minor pieces to back the pawn up (quite typical of kings.) With d4, the Queen backs her pawn up as it moves forward, so as to say, "Hey, Black, we're taking this center space. If you touch that pawn, you're going to have a problem." Plus I prefer closed positional play over open tactical play =)

ahh, but e4 also opens up lines for the queen, and if you're opponent plays e5, then it is most likely that he will be stuck defending.

Elubas
thechessvids wrote:
soothsayer8 wrote:

Which opening move do you guys prefer playing as white? e4 or d4?

I open with d4 at least 75% of the time. The way I see it, with e4, the King sends his pawn out, unprotected, and then runs to hide in the corner as soon as he can and sends his minor pieces to back the pawn up (quite typical of kings.) With d4, the Queen backs her pawn up as it moves forward, so as to say, "Hey, Black, we're taking this center space. If you touch that pawn, you're going to have a problem." Plus I prefer closed positional play over open tactical play =)

ahh, but e4 also opens up lines for the queen, and if you're opponent plays e5, then it is most likely that he will be stuck defending.


Oh wait, I thought moving the queen early was bad anyway, and after d4 the queen still has more room. Also c4 can be played absolutely safely (f4 in e4 openings tends to be dangerous), and what you say about when the opponent plays e5 could be said for d5 against d4 too.

CPawn
Elubas wrote:

Guys, you only have two options...


 I know but i had to stand up for 1.C4!

soothsayer8

alright, we can make it a general "what's your favorite first move as white?"

StrategicusRex

Favorite first move as white: 1. d4 definately.

I am also partial to 1. c3, Saragossa opening.

rrrttt

I will give 5 trophies to the person who tells me the probable place the Saragossa was invented

rrrttt

at what event?

Gundisalvus

I prefer 1.d4, but not because of all this silly tactical vs. positional nonsense. Even though I play 1.d4, most of my wins (and losses, I'm afraid to say) as white still happen because someone misses some tactical combination that wins some material. And even when I'm playing against 1.e4 as black, I realize that most of the tactics in those games wouldn't have worked without some sound positional moves.(Chess may be 99% tactics, but it isn't all tactics after all.) In fact, the only reason I chose 1.d4 over 1.e4 is because  1.d4 requires less opening memorization. In most d4 openings, the opening moves are fairly obvious and the openings are a good deal less "razor-edged" as some variations that can arise from 1.e4.

StrategicusRex

Yeah, I'm a very logical and linear thinker, and the 1. e4 openings don't always follow that path.  Laughing

Zugzeit

I personally, 9/10 use King's pawn, because it was what I first learned, it is more natural, and it opens up bishop and queen. Queen's pawn, said by some is better because in theory, the pawn is "protected. It doesn't, however really free the queen.

Elubas

Same here, I still win most of my games because of a tactic, but you have to remember most tactics come from a superior position, at least when you get to a certain level. I know a 1000 might hang a piece anytime but that stops happening fast. Few people just blunder under no pressure. Anyways, it's not even about how I win, I just like the positional struggles coming out of d4.

Also with d4, one of the best qualities is if black wants aggressive counterplay he will have to make big concessions, otherwise he'll have to deal with the slow play and white's lasting initiative.

1 e4 is more aggressive but at the same time less solid, which means even as white you have to be alert in many openings.