Forums

Is Queen's Gambit bad?

Sort:
tungyeryry

I've heard of many opinions regarding the Queen's Gambit, one-third of them considered the Queen's Gambit a terrible opening. To me, it's a solid opening with lots of attacking opportunities for White. Can anyone explain why it is theoretically bad or not?

Jahtreezy

It's not everyone's style, but I think anyone calling it "theoretically bad" is really overstating the case. It's one of the few gambits so sound that you aren't really gambiting away a pawn.

Antoniohadji
Queens gambit sucks
Nachthaube

Whoever told you that the Queen's Gambit is a bad opening was either trolling or is an idiot. 1. d4 d5 2. c4 might be the most principled opening in all of chess.

JamesColeman

Nobody that’s even vaguely decent at chess is going to say that it’s bad, even if they don’t play it themselves. It’s played constantly at the very highest levels and has been for well over 100 years.

Antoniohadji

it is bad cause CroissantDealer the youtuber hates it

AveChristus_Rex111

Yes, one of the most played, studied opening that is often used by the top grandmasters since probably the 15th century, is bad because a 500 said so.

MariasWhiteKnight

The most played and analyzed openings are AFAICS:

- Spanish (1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5)

- Queen's Gambit (1. d4 d5 2. c4)

- Sicilian (1. e4 c5)

- Indian (1. d4 Nf6)

All four openings have an excessive amount of variants so learning them completely isnt really an option unless you have an amazing memory.

All four openings can result in amazingly complex positions.

They are also all good, just not original.

MariaHNestM
tungyeryry wrote:

I've heard of many opinions regarding the Queen's Gambit, one-third of them considered the Queen's Gambit a terrible opening. To me, it's a solid opening with lots of attacking opportunities for White. Can anyone explain why it is theoretically bad or not?

it isn't bad, really. It's actually an opening that can give White an advantage if you don't know theory. Definitely super annoying when people play it against me because I always know I will lose >:-(

pcalugaru

Nothing bad about the Queens Gambit.

100 yrs of mapping out hypermodern systems... In 2024.... I wonder what the draw rates of the Nimzo, the QID, the KID are vs say the defenses within the Queens Gambit?

I an reminded Artur Yusupov who in the mid 1980s was the world's no #3 and played mainly Classical Chess Openings, beating everyone except Karpov and Kasparov. He played a lot of QGD (on both sides) Played the Colle Zuckertort, The Torre attack ... even played Lasker Var of the Queens Gambit (and these where not one and done surprise weapons at lone tournaments)

MaetsNori
tungyeryry wrote:

I've heard of many opinions regarding the Queen's Gambit, one-third of them considered the Queen's Gambit a terrible opening.

Beware the advice of anyone who tells you that the Queen's Gambit is a "terrible opening" - it sounds like they don't know much about chess.

The Queen's Gambit is one of the greatest openings in all of chess, both historically, and objectively. It's in the lofty company of the Spanish, the Sicilian, and the King's Indian ...

The game of chess would suffer tremendously if the Queen's Gambit was somehow magically erased.

ibrust

It isn't bad in any objective sense. But it could be bad for you depending on what your goals are. It's the most played response to 1. d4, and it's so highly theoretical... if you don't plan on studying the theory very deeply then it might be bad for you. If you prefer an offbeat style... it might also be bad for you. For me... I love the QGD exchange for white, it just plays so naturally and easy. I'm still not convinced b4 is enough of a solution to black's woes for me to play it as black. But that's stylistic on my part, it's a highly theoretical line and there aren't many options for black... I generally avoid those lines unless they're just clearly favoring me, I don't like the idea of buckling down and studying theory in hopes of an eventual draw. But I love the Tartakower for black.