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Is Ben Finegold as big a jerk as he seems in his videos?

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StuAngely
portlandflute wrote:
JerryKasporav wrote:

https://youtu.be/w7a2wGaez1g

I was watching some St. Louis Chess Club videos but every one that Finegold does he is constantly ridiculing and mocking the audience. Extremely off putting. Does he just have a poor sense of humor or is this his personality?

come on.. i think youre the one with poor sense of humor here.. his approach to teaching make it more casual and the jokes are just like jokes friends.. the audience must have glass heart if theyre offended by them

His jokes are terrible, beyond unfunny. I feel like I'm being forced to entertain my uncle who took a blow to the head at some point. He talks constantly about himself. I challenge anyone to find a chess video of his where he doesn't talk about some game he won that has nothing to do with the position in the lecture. I challenge them to find a video where he gets on with teaching within 5 minutes.

The truth is that he is mean and self centred. He has no humour to speak of and loves the sound of his own voice. His videos are painful to watch and almost impossible to get through and he imparts almost zero knowledge onto those watching. He is a terrible teacher and should really just step into the background, never to be heard from again. He's not even that good at chess.

StuAngely
DesperateKingWalk wrote:
magictwanger wrote:

I rest my case!.....Back to humorous and savvy Ben I like the guy.

Correct, you are nuts!

Nah, he got you on this one.

The man calls you out for being a jerk and then you prove him right by being a jerk.

Your opinion is not so fantastic that it has to be heard. So if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all.

Posting negitive or argumentative posts is just a sign that you have little control over an aspect of your life and it eats away at you. You then come here to unload onto complete strangers because it gives you some grandiose feeling of superiority that is much needed after your endless days as a civil servant or some other completely disrespected job role.

hfontanez

People today react (overreact) emotionally without thinking things for a second or two. People thinking Ben is a jerk because how he "ridicules" the audience haven't even considered that 1) as many people commented already, the kids seem to be OK with that because they have known him for a while and can feel the atmosphere around them. But more importantly, 2) THE PARENTS ARE THERE AND HAVE ALSO WATCHED THESE VIDEOS.
So, both the kids and the parents are OK with it, but you are butthurt about it. How can you dream of analyzing complex chess games, but cannot even analyze this simple thing logically. I'm sorry to say but there is no hope for you.

ShelbyLohrman
StuAngely wrote:
DesperateKingWalk wrote:
magictwanger wrote:

I rest my case!.....Back to humorous and savvy Ben I like the guy.

Correct, you are nuts!

Nah, he got you on this one.

The man calls you out for being a jerk and then you prove him right by being a jerk.

Your opinion is not so fantastic that it has to be heard. So if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all.

Posting negitive or argumentative posts is just a sign that you have little control over an aspect of your life and it eats away at you. You then come here to unload onto complete strangers because it gives you some grandiose feeling of superiority that is much needed after your endless days as a civil servant or some other completely disrespected job role.

Here is the key to everything in life...If you don't like him...don't watch him! Stop making yourself a victim. Honestly, I don't like him, but he is an asset to our community with his own sense of humor. If that is not your style...turn the channel. You know how hard it is to find Grandmasters with personality?

BlackKaweah
I’ve seen him analyze the games of kids at the National Open. He is great with the kids.
borovicka75
Some of Ben’s jokes and sayings ate controversial, but i still like him very much. He made countless both entertaining and educational videos. His stream “beginner chess” completely changed my thougts about how to teach kids. I believe i am now better coach because of him . Go Ben!
darkunorthodox88
bobby_max wrote:

Finegold is the biggest jerk on the internet. He is ridiculously opinionated, and closed minded. His jokes are pretty lame, but this is not even scratching the surface of why he is a despicable person. He's been married a bunch of times, and even his current wife threw him out at least once. He's also been banned at least once from Twitch. He just a fat, old cyber-beggar who would probably be homeless if it wasn't for Twitch and a small degree of chess ability.

im sorry but you are way off, Finegold is one of those masters who will often tell you when one of this chess opinions is the minority view or not. Maybe you dont have the Iq to appreciate his humor , but he is very well liked by in large.

he has been married a bunch of times lmao how is that at all relevant to his chess? do you know how many americans are divorcees? 
small degree of chess ability? the dude doesnt even play much anymore and trounces gothamchess while making it look easy. if he has no ability what does that mean for your skills? negative ability? a long waited refund?

VerifiedChessYarshe

I ain't reading all of these

magipi
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

im sorry but you are way off,

Are you seriously going to debate bobby_max, one of the most obnoxious trolls on the site? Good luck.

Thee_Ghostess_Lola

think circus peanuts, neccos, beemans gum...stuff like that.

Sightigh
Everybody famous is rude honestly, think about it 🤔
DimebagDonny
Sightigh wrote:
Everybody famous is rude honestly, think about it 🤔

A hasty generalization spoken rectally just like a sheepish member of the Finegold cult.

ArkosEleven
bobby_max wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
bobby_max wrote:

Finegold is the biggest jerk on the internet. He is ridiculously opinionated, and closed minded. His jokes are pretty lame, but this is not even scratching the surface of why he is a despicable person. He's been married a bunch of times, and even his current wife threw him out at least once. He's also been banned at least once from Twitch. He just a fat, old cyber-beggar who would probably be homeless if it wasn't for Twitch and a small degree of chess ability.

im sorry but you are way off, Finegold is one of those masters who will often tell you when one of this chess opinions is the minority view or not. Maybe you dont have the Iq to appreciate his humor , but he is very well liked by in large.

he has been married a bunch of times lmao how is that at all relevant to his chess? do you know how many americans are divorcees? 
small degree of chess ability? the dude doesnt even play much anymore and trounces gothamchess while making it look easy. if he has no ability what does that mean for your skills? negative ability? a long waited refund?

Oh wow, a NM going for the low hanging fruit and taking shots at another person's rating. Let me explain something to you: you're not that good either. NM? That's a kiddie title. Garbage. Get a real title like IM or GM and then talk. Yes, Ben is a GM, but just barely. He finally got the title at 40, and even Hans laughs at him.

Ben is a loud mouthed fool, as are you. He can beat Gotham? So can pretty much any GM. Big deal. Ben's wife is probably only with him for free chess lessons. Can you imagine climbing onto that fat stinking mass of flesh and sticking some of it inside you? Just the idea makes me want to puke, as I'm sure his ex wives do almost every time they remember it.

Ben verbally abuses the kids in his classes. Yes, I get his "jokes"; lame Pulp Fiction and Simpsons references. That's really groundbreaking stuff.

Try to remember that being good at chess means nothing to 99.99% of the world. You and he seem like despicable people. You come on here and heap abuse at someone you don't know to defend someone you don't know, and then make cracks about my IQ? It doesn't sound like Mensa will be sending you any invitations any time soon.

Stay away from discussions you have no clue about.

VerifiedChessYarshe
bobby_max wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
bobby_max wrote:

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Bro drank too much yappachino

ChillByteFire
VerifiedChessYarshe wrote:
bobby_max wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
bobby_max wrote:

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Bro drank too much yappachino

Nah, bro drank way too much yappachino, and is waiting for his double yappaburgers

QathetMike

Read to where someone called Ben the biggest jerk on the net

That is so obviously false, I stopped reading.

Thee_Ghostess_Lola

woont surprize me if he wore toe sox ...for his twinklies.

Thee_Ghostess_Lola

i betcha he bowls

DavidCraig327

Ben Finegold is a comedian that just happens to be gifted at chess. It's not a natural gift either, he's gifted because he worked really hard. Plus the saying goes, if you can teach it, you know it, and he's a great teacher. He also makes fun of himself all the time, he even says that he's not a good chess player often.

I'd even go so far to say that of all the chess personalities creating content, Ben is by far the funniest.

There's something to be said about comedy, a comedian sees the same world we do, but is able to explain it differently .. words .. yes. But like I said. Nobody in chess is funny .. maybe someone reading this will be a future content creator:

A comedian sees the same world we do, the same position, but work harder and look deeper to notice and exaggerate the absurdities, contradictions, and weird stuff that we often overlook. They develop a keen eye for the mundane, the ridiculous, and the relatable, using these observations to craft humor that resonates with audiences. In fact if you aren't funny and got a joke book right now, memorized a joke and said it to someone. I guarantee you wouldn't be funny. They would say, "that's a funny joke". However keep trying, and after your 10th joke you told them, they would say "you're funny". At this point. You no longer need the joke book. You're now a comedian.

If anyone thinks Ben's a jerk for saying they suck at chess. They must've not listened to Ben long enough to hear the truth behind those words.

borovicka75

#758 nicely said