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xxxycxy

Chess.com decided to censor the Russian flag, apparently embracing a collective punishment to all Russians for living in a state which doesn't respect international law (spoiler: not a single super power does). Karjakin is banned from FIDE for his political opinions, and Chess.com gladly supports this discriminatory decision.

When will Chess.com censor the American flag? When will Americans who support American illegal wars be banned? When will the Israeli flag be censored? When will the Saudi flag be censored? Why is it that if the US and their allies violate international law as bad or even worse as Russia right now, it is being called a political issue, and when their enemies commit the same crime it's up to FIDE and Chess.com to censor and discriminate Russians?

What Russia is doing right now is about the most generic policy a super power does, in fact, comparing it to the US it's quite mild. Take the invasion of Iraq in 2003 by the US, causing about a million deaths, again, why is that any different from Russia? The US history is filled with these kinds of actions: CIA overthrowing democracy in Iran in 1953, the invasion of Vietnam in 1955 to prevent democracy, the CIA overthrowing democracy in Chile in 1973 (causing a cleansing of thousands of 'communists'), or the US war crimes in Nicaragua during the 70's and 80's for which they have been convicted by the ICC. 

Why is Russia not allowed to do what the US, Saudi-Arabia or Israel do on, quite literally, a daily basis?

llama51

The US didn't invade Iraq to claim territory as their own.

But yeah, blocking the Russian flag is a bit silly.

And yeah, the US has committed international war crimes. It's just that laws don't apply to rich people (or countries).

xxxycxy

Whether you invade a country to expand your territory in a literal sense or just to ensure your interests aren't harmed isn't different. Iraq isn't the only victim, it's just the most famous example.

llama51

Chess.com doesn't actually care. It's just an unpopular war in the US (and chess.com is based in the US and most users are in the US). So management believes this sort of action is the most profitable to take in the short term.

EscherehcsE
Sultan-Saladin wrote:

<snip>When will Chess.com censor the American flag?<snip>

Never. (Just answering your question.)

Oh, in b4 the lock...

okthrowmesomenumbers

I witnessed almost all chess sites going woke for quite some time now. 

Censoring Russian flags is the last straw for me. I've just had a chat during a match w/ a Russian who told me that no sane citizen in his country supports this and that his friend got a taste of 15 days in jail for speaking out against the war.

 

I'll boycott this propaganda pushing behaviour by deleting my account and playing anon elsewhere.

xXHazzaBXx

I have to agree, if we're going to censor flags because of the recent crisis, then why even flags? Most countries can be linked to some atrocity. Censoring the flag is the same ethos of the loonies who are calling Chess.com to ban all Russian players, and even more ironic is that Chess.com even states that it is not going to do so because they don't want to punish the Russian people for the acts of their government

cheburashka777

Recent news: Russia banned the access to the whole site because of chess.com’s actions. I guess there will be no players from Russia competing on chess.com site. And soon Ukrainian players won’t be able to play. Chess.com management didn’t make right decision by banning Russian flag. 

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Султан красава
aeuvsuidtktk
Да просто русских все бояться) даже играть с нами )
xxxycxy

The worst part is that they probably think they are doing something good, while it's totally hypocritical.

archaja
cheburashka777 hat geschrieben:

Recent news: Russia banned the access to the whole site because of chess.com’s actions. I guess there will be no players from Russia competing on chess.com site. And soon Ukrainian players won’t be able to play. Chess.com management didn’t make right decision by banning Russian flag. 

I don´t think that this is the case. Found some russian player who are online just at the moment and I think I´m playing with one (he changed his flag to the worldcard-flag).

GBTGBA
archaja wrote:
cheburashka777 hat geschrieben:

Recent news: Russia banned the access to the whole site because of chess.com’s actions. I guess there will be no players from Russia competing on chess.com site. And soon Ukrainian players won’t be able to play. Chess.com management didn’t make right decision by banning Russian flag. 

I don´t think that this is the case. Found some russian player who are online just at the moment and I think I´m playing with one (he changed his flag to the worldcard-flag).

I think access to app is not blocked.

archaja

does not sound very logical in times, everybody has a smartphone....

GBTGBA

Sounds logical. You can’t post in forums on app. Just play chess ♟ 

cheburashka777
archaja wrote:

does not sound very logical in times, everybody has a smartphone....

True. But nobody plays with smartphone device in the tournaments. Chess.com doesn’t support the tournament playing in smartphone apps. 

GBTGBA

Not true. I play on app all the time in tournaments.

archaja

and besides, I doubt that the russian government try to stop their people playing in tournaments..... and in all other aspects they can go on. And besides, is it really helpful to make your own people angry while you try to fight a war? From where do you have this information?

lfPatriotGames
Sultan-Saladin wrote:

Whether you invade a country to expand your territory in a literal sense or just to ensure your interests aren't harmed isn't different. Iraq isn't the only victim, it's just the most famous example.

It's a bit different. The kerfuffle in Ukraine is mostly due to what Putin wants, not what his neighbors or the world wants. There was some agreement that going into Iraq was, at the time, the right thing to do. It wasn't just one country that wanted it, many of the neighbors wanted it too. 

I think the somewhat untied stand against Russia is because this current disagreement is pretty one sided. Chess.com is a private company, they can do whatever they want. True they drop the ball from time to time, but nobody is perfect. They have to balance what is most profitable with what is right. Sometimes the scale tips heavily in one direction.

archaja
lfPatriotGames hat geschrieben:
Sultan-Saladin wrote:

Whether you invade a country to expand your territory in a literal sense or just to ensure your interests aren't harmed isn't different. Iraq isn't the only victim, it's just the most famous example.

It's a bit different. The kerfuffle in Ukraine is mostly due to what Putin wants, not what his neighbors or the world wants. There was some agreement that going into Iraq was, at the time, the right thing to do. It wasn't just one country that wanted it, many of the neighbors wanted it too. 

I think the somewhat untied stand against Russia is because this current disagreement is pretty one sided. Chess.com is a private company, they can do whatever they want. True they drop the ball from time to time, but nobody is perfect. They have to balance what is most profitable with what is right. Sometimes the scale tips heavily in one direction.

I disagree! The war against the iraq (and many others of the US, the so called proxy wars) were absolutely crimes! And the war against Iraq was just standing on a lie! And they knew it was a lie! No, you can´t defend this or the other wars of the US. They also destabilised the world and killed people!

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