It is a Lardy but these type of sets were quite common. The teardrop bishops, and the particular open mouth and dot carvings on the Knights are what to look for. The shallow rooks did vary depending on the year. The Chavet and Lardy sets were absolutely far more entwined due to the shared region. Gorgeous and elegant and lovely to play with. I collect the Brown Stained 1970's Lardy's. I want more lol.
Lardy? Chavet? Help ID'ing this Jura France staunton set
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I see, thanks. I have a few of the 70s Lardy sets as well. They’re great!
Don't believe it is possible to definitively state if it is Chavet or Lardy. The numbering and general design is strongly suggestive of Chavet and if I had to bet on it, I'd say Chavet. They also made two piece, flat headed knights, as did Roz. To complicate matters I think they may have supplied each with pieces/sets back in the day. I think it is safer to call it a Jura set in the absence of brand marking.
As an example of what I mean, the following image was taken from Roz website. They still make sets in Jura today. Many people would identify the black knight as Lardy and the white knight as Chavet. But they are neither. I believe that similar cross design and manufacture may have occurred with Jura manufacturers in the vintage era.
Thanks for the thoughts Audioq. The rook carving is so similar to my Chavet set I also thought that maybe they shared aspects of manufacture.
Is this Lardy? How old can this set be? I think it was made before 1970 but I'm not sure.
Audioq a écrit :
As an example of what I mean, the following image was taken from Roz website. They still make sets in Jura today. Many people would identify the black knight as Lardy and the white knight as Chavet. But they are neither. I believe that similar cross design and manufacture may have occurred with Jura manufacturers in the vintage era.
Audioq is right and we can definitely remove the doubt.
Your set is also a Chavet game from the 70s-80s.
Concerning Roz, before getting supplies from Mora for the knights, he first got supplies from Chavet.
This also makes understandable the photo of this advertisement, where 3 types of knight appear: theirs, those of Chavet (different model from your 6) then that of Mora (monobloc) ;-)
@WalterBiensur Can you clarify something? My understanding is the knights that have taller pedestal bases such as in post 7 was made by Lardy while the knights with shorter bases such as in post 1 were made by Chavet. Is this correct?
I wouldn't say #7 is by Lardy. There are still several manufacturers of which I do not yet have enough information to classify their production. And to complicate everything, Chavet had himself created a cooperative (50-70) which exported its production. I would exaggerate comparing Chavet and its cooperative with Rolex and Tudor, but that's the spirit.
I share this ad from Roz (1990) with Chavet's fine-headed knight.
The Chavets facing two Lardys (1950 and 1970)
And this ad from Chavet (1979).
Thanks for the clarification Walter!
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That 1990 Roz ad made me look twice...
I understand you very well!
I give less importance to these sets. I find them of lower quality, less good finish.
Roz started making sets in the 60s. Apart from the "regular head" knights, they never made their own knights; At first they sourced from Chavet, then from Mora, in Spain, until 2023, the year the workshop closed.
They exported a lot of their sets. I was able to capture this image in a video. This provides another clue (House of Martin). To follow…
PS: in the advertisement of Roz, there is this text: We have not made knights alone, turn with us, experience and competence have contributed to the careful realization and the quality followed of our games.
It is a pun, which says without really saying it, that they do not manufacture their knights
Walterbiensur wrote:
I understand you very well!
I give less importance to these sets. I find them of lower quality, less good finish.
Roz started making sets in the 60s. Apart from the "regular head" knights, they never made their own knights; At first they sourced from Chavet, then from Mora, in Spain, until 2023, the year the workshop closed.
They exported a lot of their sets. I was able to capture this image in a video. This provides another clue (House of Martin). To follow…
I believe I have a Roz set, as it came in a box identical to a box with Roz sticker:
and indeed it's inferior quality.
I was able to observe, in another video, the owner of Roz play a last move of her game, taking the opposing king and shouting proudly: checkmate! But it is true that the majority of turners did not know how to play chess.
Another more interesting plan (Roz) was the making of ordinary heads knights.
Walterbiensur wrote:
...But it is true that the majority of turners did not know how to play chess."
Or
even set up the board... (from your roz ad you posted awhile back)
I don't understand your request. What do you mean exactly? What do you see that I don't see?
I'm wondering if anyone here as some deeper insight into vintage Lardy and Chavet sets. This set is a no.6, 3 5/8" (approx 92mm) set in "Ancient Finish". The stamping with model number does not seem like the Lardy set labeling I'm more familiar with. What is also throwing me is the rook, which looks clearly like a Chavet style rook and one I have not seen before on Lardy sets. Any ideas and is here anything that suggests what decade it might be from?