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I'm not too sure whether your speaking to me or not would invalidate my point.

You came into this topic, expressing that you're not interested, when you knew obviously it was intended for people who were.

Really, if you were paying attention, I was saying just this to you.

Wow. I remember Battlechess on my first PC, 486. Should be the 1992 or 93 version I've played. 

The graphics were quite impressive for that time. But after three or four games I've abandoned it because you've still have got the best overview on a computer game in 2D. 

As a fellow Battle Chess veteran, I wanted to ask what you remember was your experience with the program; particularly how you thought the 1992-3 version performed chess logic.

Also, did you get a copy of Game of Kings? If so, how do you think they compared?

Maybe you should pay attention more , first I wasn't talking to you and again , you're saying it's for people who is interested in it , I got no problem with it , I was just replying to the OP who has gone years ago 

@LostSeoull

I would reiterate again that it doesn't matter whether you were talking to me or OP. On the other hand, you were obviously looking for a response. (People who aren't interested in OP would simply past OP's thread over and move onto one that they are interested in.)

With that, I'm sure you'd have a very nice conversation with a moderator.

My only remembrance on that game was that it played quite silly on the levels 1-3. I'm not a particular good player now and I was definitely worse back then. And up from level 4 it just kicked your ass and you didn't knew were it was coming from.

The animations were fun at the first time to look at, but after a while it was so annoying to watching those until you finally could get to your next move. 

As for "Game of Kings", was that a competitor for Battlechess in terms of 3D simulation? 

@Spielkalb

Well, I suppose my experience was different. As a child, I played it my very best at level 1, and it was a bit too monstrous for me. The Novice level wasn't all that much easier either. Hardly. But, the beauty of it is, when I played against human players, I took with me the skills that I learned from BC level 1; and it astonished at least some players that I was some kind of clever "sneaky".

Game of Kings is Interplay's 2012 revival of Battle Chess. They titled it "Battle Chess: Game of Kings". It was released as an independent project by one of the veteran developers of the series. Sadly, of all Battle Chess games's  that came before it, GoK is the worst release of them all. None of the familiar battle chess features were there, such as take-back and replay move), setting levels from Novice to 10, 2D board, and a 'room' specifically to set up positions or reconfigure existing positions from current games. And then, above all of that, it hardly played chess any better than a 6-year-old child stereotypically would. (Giving credit where credit is due, the animation sequences were bountiful, complex and simply awesome. I enjoyed watching them. However, chess animations were second to the programs ability to play the game. I didn't use battle chess primarily for its well-thought-out battle animation. I used it as a training tool to better my game play.)

Yes, different times, different experiences. In my childhood I had a chess set and a book to learn from. 

In the later nineties I bought a copy of Fritz5 – that was great fun! You could play against it in "Friend mode" in which it adjusted itself to your strength, as a kind of AI.  And adjust it  to different styles like "Morphy" or "Kasparov". That was a really breakthrough!

And to top it, it spoke to you! Like if you moved your rook to an open file it said Rooks to the open file, did you read Nimzowisch?  Or if you've delivered a check it said Don't ever miss a check, it might evolve into a checkmate! 

That was great, I've got to find out if I've got the copy here…

Look It doesn't matter what you think about me , let's just do one thing 

You do your own thing, I won't come in your way , and let me do mine , peace 

Very good, and done.

I will take myself to knock on the door to the moderator's lounge.

Nice speaking to you, babe.

Yeah move now little girl

I never even cared for the original series of Battle Chess games. The animated captures took way too long and were boring to watch. I couldn't even get through a complete game before losing interest and closing out the software.

It sounds like the remake was no more than a scammy cash grab. These things sometimes happen - I guess it's a lesson to do your homework before laying down your cash. Oh well...

The original series had its flaws and down, no doubt. Namely, on a 2D board, you could not rotate view and was stuck on the perspective of White's view (which was the 'cheery' Red pieces); even if you're playing Black. (The developers couldn't have rendered two perspective views, one from White and one from Black?) And then, yes, the programs' flip-page animations, which they were, took seemingly way too long. Albeit, BC 1992-3 (the program that my screen name was based on) had very smooth animation that took at least slightly less time; depending on the machine and operating system it was on back in its time. 

For me, animations taking too long mostly weren't an issue. If I couldn't finish a game, I always saved it for another day. And, BC92-3 series also had a features that make a game faster. It allowed you to zip-play without the animation: the character just slide across the board instantly, and captured characters disappear in an instance, without having to deal with the slow walking-cross-board animation of the piece and their 6-20 second animation sequence. 

I used BC as a training tool, because it was freakin' hard for me to defeat. The animations didn't matter to me. It was an excellent chess program that really taught me how to be a standing chess player.

You are right that it looks like GoK wasn't much more than just a cheap 'let me use a reputable name to make cold cash' ordeal. I couldn't have been more disappointed because of the long list of reasons I left here. I regard Battle Chess 1993 as my most updated version of Battle Chess, because it is a prized treasure to me, compared to what GoK had to offer. I told the developers that. I left it as a review on their feedbacks page.

The only thing I like in the new version, is that when 0-0, the king and rook hi-five each other.

Otherwise it's all just sheer violence. ugh!

the older version is even worse - violence-wise.

"the king and rook hi-five each other."

Eh. Everyone to their own. 

For me: it was awesome all the same. However, it muddied the "classical" fantasy image that has illustrated all previous versions.

On the other hand, I could definitely let go of that (hi-five). Like I said, I'm more bothered by the fact that it's a gladiator and not a stone beast transfigured from a castle tower.

There's no reason to. (@JoelCyril_6A_autumn, who now goes by @Swen7AWinter)

Your jejune "I could turn around just to say you look like him, too!!" diversion tactic really isn't helping you very much. I'm sorry to say.

Ha!